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Originally Posted by Far-L
No, I wasn't making that assumption at all though I get your point and don't disagree. I just wanted to play with "Pride vs Shame" in the sentence for making my point.
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Funnily enough your comment, the previous one that I replied to, reminded me of Kurt Cobain, who hung out with a gay lad at school and said he started to feel proud to be gay even though he wasn't. He also said he wished he was gay, just to piss off homophobes.
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If there weren't stupid gay people that were ashamed of being gay then Michelle Bachman's husband would never be able to take advantage them with "correction" therapy.
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Yeah, it's funny, I personally don't really want to see gay acts (even kissing) all over the place, but I don't know if that's an instinctive, base thing, that it's "unnatural" (in which case I as a human have the capacity to override it with intelligence, logic or reason), or if it's just brainwashing. Ie, if you're brought up where gayness is inferior or hidden, then it's an abnormal feeling to see it.
Probably both, since there is persecution of gay people everywhere in the world, in every culture, though I think it's not necessarily just about being gay, but about being different. Thing is, differences are what makes the world an interesting place.
I can understand people feeling "ashamed" of being a certain way though, because 'society' looks down on those things and considers them 'wrong'. And even if they're content that they are gay, they might still feel they have to keep it a secret, or feel embarrassed about other people knowing. And I don't blame them for that.
The people I have least respect for are those who won't even admit to themselves that they are gay (eg, men who like trannies). Because if you won't even admit it to yourself that you're gay, you obviously think it's wrong or bad, and are homophobic/self-hating.