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Old 11-20-2011, 03:28 PM  
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Originally Posted by gideongallery View Post
1. huge is a relative term, you can make 1/25th sales and make as much money as a represented artist.

2. this article pointed out the fact that " one large EU country 97.5 percent of artists earn less than ?1,000 (£856) a month from the copyright system". The average kickstarter mucian make 2x that amount.
and only roughly 50% of the members of the writers guild that work in the film and TV industry actually make money in any give year from writing. This is because being a working artist is difficult. Regardless of copyright laws creating something and then building an audience for it is not an easy thing to do no matter what form of art you are pursuing.

In the recent movie Pearl Jam 20 Eddie Vedder talks about how when you are a kid playing guitar in your room you can only dream of big success because that is what it is, a dream. Actual success on a huge scale just isn't going to happen.


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here is the fact

if you want to make it big in the music industry your better off, doing it on your own
taking all the money above 1k a month you make from kickstarter and buy lotto tickets

the odds are way better you will make millions then hoping that the record company will promote you to success.

The fact is no one in the record industry has ever gotten a marketing push without FIRST paying back their advance.

The fact that some artist have enough talent to make back their money on their original single sales doesn't change that fact

the fact that artist who have an establish career can get million dollar advances so big they can't ever sell enough records to recover from (with the 90/10 split) doesn't change that fact.
For once you are making sense.

The fact is making it in the music business, just like making it as an actor or writer or painter or director or photographer, is very VERY difficult. Most people fail. It often has nothing to do with your talent level. There are many very talented people out there who just don't get lucky and get the break or who don't hit the market at the right time. There are so many factors that surround success that are out of the artists hands that any amount of success a person gets is about 80% luck.

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The fact is no one in the record industry has ever gotten a marketing push without FIRST paying back their advance.
This is DEAD wrong. I have said it before and will say it again. Read a book called, "So You Want To Be a Rock N Roll Star." It was written by the drummer of a band named Semisonic They went from being an unknown band to having a big hit single. The record label had about a million dollars including about $500,000 just to get their single on the radio before their single was ever actually broadcast. Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera both had a ton of money dumped into them before they ever had a single out. I once read in Rolling Stone that Jive records was into Britney for about $3 million before anyone knew her name. An unknown band named Candlebox was signed my Maverick records and got a $800,000 advance. The label had over a million dollars into them before their first single ever came out.

Also read a book called Hit Men it all about the record industry and many of the deals that were struck. In it you get to read how they spent about $600,000 just recording Whitney Houston's first album because they were sure she would be a star and wanted it to be perfect.

There are plenty of examples of artists getting big pushes before they ever pay back anything.
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