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Old 11-20-2011, 03:12 PM  
kane
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Originally Posted by gideongallery View Post
who happens to be the technology officer for the EU
Still one person's opinion. Doesn't make it the final word in the argument.




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all documented in as a problem, not as the solution.
Well, I guess it depends on how you read it. To me the person is just pointing out that there is a long standing complaint and how they have gone about trying to stop piracy.




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so now you need the solution handed to you for free
I just want it in the public domain so I can benefit from it just like everyone else. I don't want someone coming up with the idea and then. . . GASP. . . holding the rights to that idea and forcing me to pay for it.

(this BTW is sarcasm) My real point is that people keep saying think outside the box and that they should change the system, but they never suggest how that change should be made. This person should be in a perfect place for this because they personally don't benefit from the changes and they could let the world know a better way of doing business that benefited everyone, but they choose not to.



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again putting it in the public domain, or shortening the time of the exclusive right doesn't stop them from doing any of those things either.

you keep comming back to the fact that the copyright holder can give the stuff away for no money (for free) why are you so stupid that you don't understand that we are talking about free (as in free speech) not free (free beer)

copyright is not supposed to stop free speech because of fair use, when fair use is limited (you need to get permission to make a cover, parody etc) that exactly when it is.
In all honesty I'm not opposed to shortening the time of exclusive copyright. In a different thread a while back I suggested that they make a system that had the copyright decrease in steps over time. For example you get an exclusive copyright for 30 years. Then after that for a number of years (say 10) you still hold the commercial rights, but if a school or some kind of education/artistic type of group wanted to use your work in a non-profit way they could without paying you. After that 10 years is up it enters into what I would call semi-public domain. This means anyone could do whatever they wanted with it, however if they used it in a way that made them money (for example if we are talking about a book they could just reprint and sell your book) then they have to pay you a small royalty based on their sales. Nothing huge, but enough that you still benefit from your work.

Also, you are smart enough to know that free speech and fair use are not the same things. Free speech is not limitless or without boundaries. The same goes for fair use.
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