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Originally Posted by FlexxAeon
the issue i have is the (personally perceived of course) farce that is the IFFOR and/or what it represents.
i can understand that ICM is a business and it's goal is to profit. I can also understand that IFFOR is (supposed to be) a non-profit for policy formulation. what i CAN'T understand is these two entities co-existing without one being able to supersede the other at some point, as they are each supposedly trying to accomplish two different things that will be at odds at some point. ICM wants to profit as much money as possible. IFFOR is supposed to be protecting the children.
the only way that this set up makes sense is with the whole "government regulation" angle tha'ts been flying around, but i won't go into that as it's moot for now
while i don't think that ICM would ever venture into anything that is clearly harming the children, what happens when (i really should say IF) IFFOR were to present a policy that hits ICM too hard in the pockets? something really "grey area" and vague. just as a hypothetical, lets say that "sites on .xxx domains cannot have girls in pigtails because of the implied CP". ICM does an assessment and determines that's going to affect too much of their income (or.... "not commercially reasonable") and they decline the suggestion. so.....what is IFFOR for? how about just do away with IFFOR, and ICM sells their domains. i can respect that. but trying to convince us that we need guidelines or policing that we already had is the pee/leg/rain i spoke of.
it doesn't take another separate entity to determine policy. we've been doing it for YEARS before you guys showed up. and if we did want/need an additional non-profit entity they surely should not be at the feet of a for-profit business. that just doesn't even fly right
your closing words were kind but i still doubt the sincerity - sorry  again, nothing personal not saying you (don't even know who you are lol), but the entity. they way they came in the door, these "press releases" and "debates" and other propaganda show me what ICM thinks of us on the intelligence scale  |
I think it?s possible that you partly misunderstand the purpose of IFFOR.
.XXX is a sponsored top level domain (sTLD), as opposed to a generic top level domain (gTLD).
From IFFOR?s website: (and in a quote for the tl;dr crowd)
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?Generally speaking, an unsponsored TLD (or gTLD) operates under policies established by the global Internet community directly through the ICANN process, while a sponsored TLD is a specialized TLD that has a sponsor representing the narrower community that is most affected by the TLD. The sponsor thus carries out delegated policy-formulation responsibilities over many matters concerning the TLD.
A Sponsor is an organization to which is delegated some defined ongoing policy-formulation authority regarding the manner in which a particular sponsored TLD is operated. The sponsored TLD has a Charter, which defines the purpose for which the sponsored TLD has been created and will be operated. The Sponsor is responsible for developing policies on the delegated topics so that the TLD is operated for the benefit of a defined group of stakeholders, known as the Sponsored TLD Community, that are most directly interested in the operation of the TLD. The Sponsor also is responsible for selecting the registry operator and to varying degrees for establishing the roles played by registrars and their relationship with the registry operator. The Sponsor must exercise its delegated authority according to fairness standards and in a manner that is representative of the Sponsored TLD Community.
The extent to which policy-formulation responsibilities are appropriately delegated to a Sponsor depends upon the characteristics of the organization that may make such delegation appropriate. These characteristics may include the mechanisms the organization uses to formulate policies, its mission, its guarantees of independence from the registry operator and registrars, who will be permitted to participate in the Sponsor's policy-development efforts and in what way, and the Sponsor's degree and type of accountability to the Sponsored TLD Community.?
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In other words, IFFOR is first, required to exist as an independent entity, per ICANN, as the sponsor for ICMRegistry, and second, is the representative voice for the sponsored community. So while ?protecting children? is indeed one of the policy goals stated in IFFOR?s charter, it isn?t the ONLY goal, nor is it the entirety of its purpose. (You can find IFFOR?s policy goals on the main page of their website and the current policies under the policies link, under baseline policies.)
I hope that clarifies things somewhat, but if not, I?ll keep trying!
I can assure you that I am entirely sincere, and I appreciate your not making that a ?personal? statement. I also realize that there is a combination of a lot of negativity, and a distinct lack of information, which is part of why I?m here. We recognize the need for straight answers to legitimate questions, away from distinctly impersonal press releases and without the spin and drama that surrounds panels and debates. Because honestly ? who doesn?t want to bring the popcorn and anticipate a brawl when attending a panel entitled .XXX Smackdown?
