the issue i have is the (personally perceived of course) farce that is the IFFOR and/or what it represents.
i can understand that ICM is a business and it's goal is to profit. I can also understand that IFFOR is (supposed to be) a non-profit for policy formulation. what i CAN'T understand is these two entities co-existing without one being able to supersede the other at some point, as they are each supposedly trying to accomplish two different things that will be at odds at some point. ICM wants to profit as much money as possible. IFFOR is supposed to be protecting the children.
the only way that this set up makes sense is with the whole "government regulation" angle tha'ts been flying around, but i won't go into that as it's moot for now
while i don't think that ICM would ever venture into anything that is clearly harming the children, what happens when (i really should say IF) IFFOR were to present a policy that hits ICM too hard in the pockets? something really "grey area" and vague. just as a hypothetical, lets say that "sites on .xxx domains cannot have girls in pigtails because of the implied CP". ICM does an assessment and determines that's going to affect too much of their income (or.... "not commercially reasonable") and they decline the suggestion. so.....what is IFFOR for? how about just do away with IFFOR, and ICM sells their domains. i can respect that. but trying to convince us that we need guidelines or policing that we already had is the pee/leg/rain i spoke of.
it doesn't take another separate entity to determine policy. we've been doing it for YEARS before you guys showed up. and if we did want/need an additional
non-profit entity they surely should not be at the feet of a
for-profit business. that just doesn't even fly right
your closing words were kind but i still doubt the sincerity - sorry

again, nothing personal not saying you (don't even know who you are lol), but the entity. they way they came in the door, these "press releases" and "debates" and other propaganda show me what ICM thinks of us on the intelligence scale
