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SoBeGirl Video · 06-08-2003, 07:46 PM

I know you guys love a blood bath but this is going to be simple. The links you see below are copies if invoiced I paid Joe to own his content and sell as I wish. I paid thousands of dollars for his content and for this right. I always requested I get the source tape so I would have the highest quality files and he always sent them to me as long as I paid. And I paid Thousands. I think if you add it up it is over 10 thousand dollars to have his content and the right to do as I wish with it. There is no mention anywhere of a floor-selling price. I have all model release forms and Photo Ids as well. You can see on some of the invoices that I was very diligent about Joe giving me the model release forms and photo IDs. Some are missing from the tapes he sent me and I noted those sets on the invoice and returned those sets to Joe. I do not know if Joe is selling that content or not on his own site but I would not sell them on SoBeGirl. Joe sold a lot of content to me because at that time he needed the money. We were not competing directly at that time so there was no issue of what I could sell it for. This point only came up after I had captured, processed, edited, made Jpg screen caps, made trailer videos, rendered the content and then updated SoBeGirl with the new sets. All these Processes cost me about another 10 thousand dollars. Only after all this work was done and I invested over 20 thousand dollars, did I hear comments from him on what I could do with content that I paid for and was delivered to me time and time again. And I want to make a point, which I keep saying over and over again. I am not singling Joe out here. I am selling SoBeGirl content for 5 dollars a set too. My content, content I shot and created my self. I am selling content from other producers on SoBeGirl for 5 dollars a set as well. This is a free market and if I want I can drop prices to 1 dollar a set if I feel like it. I have the right to do so and nobody can tell me otherwise. Now that this whole matter is taken to the boards I think that the best thing to do is let the board be the Judge. I will let you ? the Webmasters settle this issue for Joe and I. I don?t want to hurt anyone. I just want to stay in business and compete. Joe needs to understand that. Joe needs to see where the market is going and fall in. So, esteemed board members, how should this be settled? Should Joe pay me back for my costs incurred buying and processing the content and then I will relinquish the rights I have to sell it back to him? Should Joe shut up and leave me alone so that I can continue giving webmasters great deals. Should Joe just dig in and start competing on price like J$tyles is doing and like I am doing? You be the judge and jury. I am willing to go with whatever the majority has to say. Because the majority are my customers and I must do as they wish or I have no business.

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06-08-2003, 07:46 PM
SoBeGirl Video So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Planet earth Posts: 2,493	SoBeGirl VS AMA I know you guys love a blood bath but this is going to be simple. The links you see below are copies if invoiced I paid Joe to own his content and sell as I wish. I paid thousands of dollars for his content and for this right. I always requested I get the source tape so I would have the highest quality files and he always sent them to me as long as I paid. And I paid Thousands. I think if you add it up it is over 10 thousand dollars to have his content and the right to do as I wish with it. There is no mention anywhere of a floor-selling price. I have all model release forms and Photo Ids as well. You can see on some of the invoices that I was very diligent about Joe giving me the model release forms and photo IDs. Some are missing from the tapes he sent me and I noted those sets on the invoice and returned those sets to Joe. I do not know if Joe is selling that content or not on his own site but I would not sell them on SoBeGirl. Joe sold a lot of content to me because at that time he needed the money. We were not competing directly at that time so there was no issue of what I could sell it for. This point only came up after I had captured, processed, edited, made Jpg screen caps, made trailer videos, rendered the content and then updated SoBeGirl with the new sets. All these Processes cost me about another 10 thousand dollars. Only after all this work was done and I invested over 20 thousand dollars, did I hear comments from him on what I could do with content that I paid for and was delivered to me time and time again. And I want to make a point, which I keep saying over and over again. I am not singling Joe out here. I am selling SoBeGirl content for 5 dollars a set too. My content, content I shot and created my self. I am selling content from other producers on SoBeGirl for 5 dollars a set as well. This is a free market and if I want I can drop prices to 1 dollar a set if I feel like it. I have the right to do so and nobody can tell me otherwise. Now that this whole matter is taken to the boards I think that the best thing to do is let the board be the Judge. I will let you ? the Webmasters settle this issue for Joe and I. I don?t want to hurt anyone. I just want to stay in business and compete. Joe needs to understand that. Joe needs to see where the market is going and fall in. So, esteemed board members, how should this be settled? Should Joe pay me back for my costs incurred buying and processing the content and then I will relinquish the rights I have to sell it back to him? Should Joe shut up and leave me alone so that I can continue giving webmasters great deals. Should Joe just dig in and start competing on price like J$tyles is doing and like I am doing? You be the judge and jury. I am willing to go with whatever the majority has to say. Because the majority are my customers and I must do as they wish or I have no business. [IMG]http://www.***********/joe/j1.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.*********/joe/j2.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.*********/joe/j3.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.*********/joe/j4.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.***********/joe/j5.jpg[/IMG]