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Old 11-02-2011, 03:41 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by nextri View Post
Your freedom will be limited in the way that you can no longer create any sort of social or interactive website. The law is directly preventing innovation on the internet, it creates censorship in that each and every website owner will need to moderate each and every user interaction, which is in fact impossible to do, so such websites can no longer exists. There can be no blog networks like wordpress.org because just one infringing blog can get the whole network closed down. How is that not limiting your freedom?
BS WP is the tool. not the user and therefore not to blame.

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Answer this simple question:
Should facebook have to have moderators to moderate each and every status update, user comment and photo upload from their 700 million users?
Should youtube be forced to approve each and every one of the thousands of videos that gets uploaded every minute?
Libel is the crime of the libeler, not the medium the libel appears on. Disabling the ability to post any content and problem solved.

Can The New York Times post pictures they have no right to post? Will they or the advertiser be liable for submission? Will they be held responsible for posting pictures of naked children or allowing others to?

We can live without Youtube.

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If your answer is no to these questions, then you can't approve of this bill, cause that is what they will need to do in order to still operate their sites without worrying about suddenly getting shut down, without having a say in the matter.
Well my answer is yes.

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How are they suppose to be able to have enough moderators who even know if any of the content is infringing anyone's intellectual property? It is impossible, and the sites couldn't operate like today. Not to mention the websites would be useless if they couldn't have real time updates.
So they can't operate and stay legal. goodbye to criminals on the basis, they can't afford to be criminals.

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There should definitely be done things to fight piracy, but not in ways that can result in websites being taken down without due process. If they are going to make a law to target sites that are mainly distributing copyrighted material, they need to make it a lot more specific so it doesn't destroy the very basis of an open social interactive internet.
How much due process will be to establish Youtube is full of pirated content?

Of course it needs to be done with due process. But a legal site getting pulled down on a false claim. Is that your fear?

We can have a open social interactive internet. Just not one where people are allowed to post the property of others. If I break into your house and steal your computer then set up a place where anyone can use it. Is that an open social interactive operation?

Many peoples freedom is being limited now by pirates. Freedom to make money to feed their children, freedom to develop and innovate and get a ROI on that work. Freedom to work for someone who is doing this. Are their freedoms secondary to yours so you can post their hard work on Youtube or where ever you want, so you can have a open social interactive internet?

One man's freedom seems to be another man's loss of freedom.

Laws that apply offline, should apply online.

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Make me a fucking mod, and I swear some knucklehead noggins would be knocked together and rolling around gfy'ville (might try and use some AVN resources to actually conduct a real investigation or two as well, lol).


Many get away with too much because of the lack of moderation. A stricter application of the rules is long overdue.
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