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Originally Posted by anexsia
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You can argue photography skills, lighting, etc all day but when it comes down to it..none of that really matters much in what most customers want.
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That's the truth. BangBus sold more memberships that Shap and me put together and it was shot with a freakin' handycam.
That's what I'm trying to tell Paul...yes I'm sure that Shap COULD have spent a fortune on pictures that were laid out perfect and cost tons of money to get perfect.
And then? It wouldn't necessarily sell one more membership or retain one more member. I promoted Twistys from the time that Shap first opened it.
In my mind it was a softcore "glamour" style "babe" site. He did really well with it. Made as much money online with that concept as anybody ever has.
Could he have made a dollar or two more? Of course.
Would hiring an overpriced photographer to shoot have made more money for him?
I don't think so.
Because at the end of the day...Shap could have paid the best photographer in the world an exorbitant amount of money to shoot a set of hot pics. And then Shap could have grabbed a kodak instamatic and shot a girl who just had that "it" factor...
And at the end of the day there is a 50/50 chance that just as many guys would have found that ONE picture that makes their cock hard in the "shitty" set as would have in the "pro" set.
I personally wouldn't presume to tell Shap how to market to that niche. Yeah, I have some ideas and I think I'm pretty average at selling "babe" stuff. But for me to tell Shap that he should have done something different?
Ludicrous.
Nothing wrong with arguing points in general and talking about ideas and opinions for tweaking shit. But Paul's mistake is to show the utter disrespect to people who are at a certain level in what they do.
Shap ruled his niche in online paysites.
Now you can argue a lot of things with him, but you have to realize that he is the master of that in the online world. It doesn't matter what some fancy-shmancy photog would have charged him for a set of photos that may or may not have done anything to please his members.
The bottom line is Shap set the stage, the curtain went up, and the crowd roared.
A lot of guys tried to do that...and failed.
That's all you need to know Paul.
And no disrespect to you Paul. I wouldn't begin to try and tell you that you don't know what you're doing when you shoot a scene or a set of pictures.
It's called respect and professional courtesy.
It's easy to lose track of that when you're getting attacked by clowns on GFY who don't know shit. But don't mix up clowns with real guys like Shap.