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Originally Posted by Shap
Paul you don't know wtf you are talking about. It's not about judging sales tools, judging a tour, or judging 5 pictures from a set. You are viewing Twistys as a photographer and webmaster instead of a surfer or member. I didn't get rich with Twistys by accident. I delivered what the members wanted.
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I did an extensive review of the content on Twistys and pointed out some very basic problems. Nothing to do with surfers or members. Just basic problems. Would you like me to post the reviews of what I found and our email discussions?
The difference between the gallery Jimmy posted and the latest updates on Holly's site is so easy to see, I'm staggered you're trying to defend it.
You could of been a lot richer.
Yes you bought all the non exclusive Micheal shot. Because Micheal was able to make more shooting non exclusive or because you couldn't afford to employ him full time, or even freelance as a custom shooter?
This high lights the narrow thinking of online guys.
Many site owners are clearly great at setting up traffic flow, dealing with affiliates and running a site. Yet when it comes to the product, it's production, areas other than offline to monetize it and keep it above the level of many others. Lacking.
How much more could of been made by people with one set of skills forming a partnership with a person with another set of skills?
Yet online porn's view of content under values it to the level where it allows many to compete. Effects conversions and hurts retention. While paying out the maximum to get traffic, spending loads of time to cultivate this area.
The money, time and attention spent to produce the actual product that success or failure ultimately depends on. Is sadly lacking. Taking even a cursory look at Holly's site. It's clear she is a great shooter. Yet not the most visible of people when it comes to traffic generation.
I met many people who were good at setting up sites. Few made enough to pay us what we could earn elsewhere. Or thought we would shoot for peanuts. None wanted a clear and open partnership that could of benefited both. None could offer us enough to take the non exclusive license from us and make the stores close. The magazines that were paying $1,000s for a 1 year exclusive license in their country, wanted
non exclusive Internet rights. No paysite could compete with that. They simply would never pay the price.
Yet in practice what did they do with they do with the
non exclusive Internet rights? Very little. In fact the online guys boasted offline was clueless about online. So taking our production for just the
non exclusive Internet rights. Excluding us from reselling via the stores. They would of made more money.
Ultimately some were unwilling and most unable to pay what we and Michael earn from selling sets to all comers.
The lack of vision on the product made a lot of peoples jobs a lot harder.
Galleries that inspired surfers to keep looking longer than others. You know this to be true because of the different success of some companies galleries. Tours that converted far better than others. And you came up with every excuse but the obvious. It was the design, the join button wasn't big enough, the text wasn't good enough and anything to hide the obvious. The content is no different than content in 1,000s of other galleries.
Yes judging a gallery and tour is what it's all about. If people don't take the first step you fucked at getting them to take the last one.
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Originally Posted by mpahlca
You forgot that you ran it into the ground, not that you sold it on a high.
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Shap like most online guys was too obsessed with traffic and had a lower than warranted opinion of the product. He did well, but could of doe a lot better is what I'm saying and this applies to many online guys. Buy cheap content and throw expensive traffic at it. Because the content simply doesn't inspire enough.
Whoops!!!!!
Now with second vision, online porn paysites had 10 good years. If that, 2000-2010. Now the effect of cheap hosting, speeds and BW will kill it off. Slowly but surely. During the good years very few really capitalized on them.