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Old 10-27-2011, 04:55 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by jimmycooper View Post
OK Paul, you are starting to make sense now, I'll give you that, but I do still disagree with your assessment of the Twistys shooters so here are a few pics. Can you tell me what's wrong with them?


Better still, tell me why that are working for a few hundred bucks a set?

Posting 5 pics of what is basically 2 poses isn't "set" photography. It's Calender photography which is another level all together.

This is what Micheal shoots as a set. Not all of the set is shown in some of these thumb pages that would get submitted.

http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.p...0%29&i d=6000

http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.p...0%29&i d=6008

http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.php?id=6011

http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.p...0%29&i d=6012

http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.p...0%29&i d=6002 Least spread of poses required IMO

http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.p...0%29&i d=6009

http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.p...0%29&i d=6009

My work

http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.p...20%29&i d=251

http://www.bargainbasementcontent.com/details.php?id=56

http://www.bargainbasementcontent.co...120%29&i d=57

http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.p...0%29&i d=1138

http://www.bargainbasementcontent.co...20%29&i d=902

http://www.bargainbasementcontent.co...0%29&i d=1135

Studio assistants work.

http://www.paulmarkham.com/details.p...0%29&i d=1814

Just a few.

Now if they did shoot this level they have to explain why they left a fortune on the table by shooting for online. Because in now way did online pay anything like what offline paid. We earned more from the stores than we would of by selling the scenes once.

I know from looking at sets in paysites, including Twistys, the spread of shots, repeated poses and missed poses. Would of got a set rejected.

This from an online site.



70 images with what is basically only 13 shots. Why? Because online was obsessed with quantity. Put that on your computer and play it in a slide show and it's just repeat after repeat.

The same goes for video. Few wanted 3 good solo girl scenes for $500 a scene. They wanted 5 poor scenes for $300. No one would pay $1500 for one great solo girl scene. So members areas were boring a lot of the times and retention sucked, then conversions slid. Because surfers became more and more wise that a members area wouldn't deliver.

I know you were doing 100 sign ups a day and they were staying 3 months. Think of doing 1,000 a day and staying 6 months. What ever the numbers were, they should of been better.

Consider maybe as many as 90% of offline shooters are like me. Freelance guns for hire. Ask us to shoot a scene and we will nod yes. Tell us $500 to $700 a solo girl scene exclusive and we will say no. I've no doubt some spent more than $700 for solo girl, but that was to cover the cost of the models. What ended up in the shooters pockets wasn't enough, IMO, to get the Viv's, Steve's and Micheal's of the business shooting for them consistently.

In no way do I blame the shooters. This is purely down to the sponsors.

You saw guys throwing money around like it was confetti, we saw a different picture when it came to buying the product.

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Why do you English guy's, hate each other so much?
I don't hate any one on a message board. They're not that important.

Dislike, think apathetic, think they're losers, feel sorry for them. These are better ways to describe them.

I just use strong language when expressing myself online and off. But no, don't hate Damian.

Last edited by Paul Markham; 10-27-2011 at 04:59 AM..
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