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Old 10-26-2011, 10:34 PM  
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Originally Posted by Shotsie View Post
You know what's funny? You and TheDoc have basically switched political stances to have this little debate here. What you're arguing for is protectionism, and social programs, which is in direct conflict with the school of Austrian economics preaching free trade that the Republican party is a proponent of. I happen to agree with you, I think we need something similar to the Works Progress Administration that FDR put in place during the Great Depression. The Wpa, the Tennessee Valley Authority, all these public works programs that FDR established during the Great Depression built our highway infrastructue, our Dams and hydroelectric facilities like the Hoover dam, our national parks, our power plants and electrical grid was expanded, etc.


What the Republicans want to do is slash budgets and lay off government workers, which is only going to make the situation much worse than it already is. The problem is that the Republican party has moved so far to the right that any mention of a jobs program and they scream "Socialism". This is why the OWS movement formed, because the banks are being propped up by the government, meanwhile the middle/working class has been hung out to dry, they're the ones being asked to make all the sacrifices, and now they're using this recession as an excuse to break unions and filter even more money to the top. It's fucking disgusting.
I don't know how to deal with the goverment employees, but we can't afford to have so many people living on the tax dollars. I just hate Obama, I'm not a republican. I have two union cards. Yet I believe public workers have to take a cut. I had to take a cut once during a time as a union worker. The states have to make the budget. California has too many on welfare that shouldn't be, the present and every administration before this one has ignored the illegal immigration problem and now 50% of the population in LA county are hispanic. An elected official stated he believed the cost of illegal aliens in LA county was 1 billion dollars a year, yet they do nothing about it, we even voted in 187 and it got shot down by one judge, nice to know one judge has more power than the vote of the state.

Some of my views are progressive, but fiscally they are conservative. Narrow minded people seem to think you are either one or the other. I don't have that problem.

People want a better education but can't afford, military service
Want a smaller home loan, get a smaller home
Want more money, learn a trade
Have a problem with someone, hit them

Now someone can walk into a court room that you know with out you being there and get a restraining order, which takes away one of your constitutional rights to own a firearm. What constitutional right will they take away next?
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that
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