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Old 10-25-2011, 10:55 AM  
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Originally Posted by Matt 26z View Post
Why do Jews and Jewish sympathizers absolutely need the story to involve evil Nazis murdering everyone in cold blood? Why are alternative theories that still acknolege all of the deaths not allowed?


Read it and weep, idiot:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre

Covered up for decades and not a peep about this kind of thing at the Nuremberg trials. Stalin himself signed the order for this particular massacre. There was enough evidence to put Stalin on trial and execute him. But again, the goal was to pin it all on Germany, so all of this was swept under the rug by the allied countries for decades.



You are a child incapable of processing events from an alternative point of view while still arriving at the same ending. I do not question the 5-10 million figure. The specific events that brought the figure that high is what I question.

The blockade is well documented and it probably was responsible for more Jewish deaths than anything the Nazi's did directly. But people don't like to think about Jewish deaths as being the unintended consequences of a blockade. It feels so much better to believe evil Nazis did it all.

FYI: The gas you are referencing is Zyklon B, a pesticide actually used to clean living areas and fumigate clothing. Disease outbreaks were rampant at the internment camps and responsible for a great number of deaths. The Zyklon B was used to help bring the disease down. This gas is not ideal for human execution because it lingers in the air for a long time, preventing entry by those that remove the bodies. Yet eyewitness accounts state that Nazi soldiers entered the showers to remove bodies immediately after execution. This is not possible and these particular accounts are a fraud. This however does not mean that Nazi's didn't gas some amount of Jews.

At some point rogue soldiers probably tossed prisoners in with the clothing being gassed for their own sick amusement. These isolated incidents spawned myths of gassing to kill everyone. If you look at the history of wars, there is always an element of illegal actions by rogue soldiers.

These are NOT theories of Jew being killed in cold blood these are facts. I have met eye witnesses, I have seen the camps, I have stood in the gas chambers. The murdered people Jews, Poles, gypsies, communists, Trade Unionists, the disabled and the mentally ill.


The Katyn Murders were not covered up for years but were well known even in communist circles. Yes, of course, Stalin should have been arrested, and so should Churchill and every American President, for their crimes in their respective colonies.

BUT the NAZI horror was something of exceptional nation, to kill people because of their race, not because what they believed.

The Jewish people were deliberately starved, shot, gased....It had nothing to do with the blockade.

The rubbish you write about Zyklon B, the Germans did not enter the gas chambers, they made prisoners do that work, they were later murdered.

The camps were liberated by British, American and Russian troops, all filmed and photographed what they saw, it is all there to be seen. Thousand survived to testify.

Anyone who denies these crimes has a reason, a racist hatred for people different from themselves,
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