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Old 10-23-2011, 05:18 AM  
Jel
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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX View Post
when i went to AA i was very turned off by the hold hands and pray in a circle shit.

Religion has no purpose in fighting addiction.

those charities are propped up by drug/alcohol courts and wouldnt exist without the funding they are provided and its all a mask for religion. what got me the most was how everyone there was sucking down sugar, coffee, and cigarettes.... yet beer is bad? LOL these people couldnt sit 10 mins without smoking, and they wnt to tell me how bad a life i was living was by drinking beer buahaha

not to mention first thing they get you do is admit "i have no power" over alcohol,... horseshit, you and only you can QUIT, not some god gonna help you.
AA and it's offshoots isn't for everyone, of course not, but the above is horse shit

Go to 5 meetings and see if you still think it's about religion.

#1 they aren't charities
#2 they aren't propped up by anything other than the people in them, and their contributions of time & money
#3 it's not about the addiction itself, but about the consequences - sugar, coffee, cigarettes - yep all 'bad for you' in a broad sense, though I've yet to hear of people getting done for smoke driving, losing their job because they had too much coffee on a regular basis, went into blackout and didn't remember a thing about the previous night's coffee & cigarette session, and so on.
#4 these people told you you were living a bad life? I call bullshit on that. They told you their experiences, shared the consequences, and 'told' you that if you had similar problems and had a desire to quit drinking, AA was the place to do it.
#5 you don't have any power over alcohol, if you are an alcoholic, because you can't stop after just the one drink. By even mentioning QUIT, you acknowledge you need to abstain entirely - *that's* the powerlessness, because you simply CANNOT drink in a way that other people can, and have just 1 or just 2, on an ongoing basis. Once you start, you keep on going, and that's why you end up at your rock bottom, whatever that is on a personal case by case, and walk through the doors.

Oh, and not sure where you are, but no court over here in the UK can order you to attend a single AA meeting, and I'd be very surprised to hear that a court can do that wherever you live.
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