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Old 10-09-2011, 12:14 PM  
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Originally Posted by cherrylula View Post
Better to read and educate than spout off blindly.
From this page: http://www.californiadreamact.org/about/the-bill.html
Outstanding, so after all Californians get their loan, we'll hand out loans to criminals who are in the country illegally, break laws on a daily basis, and we'll never see a dime of that money once they get deported to go home to use their degree.

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Sounds good to me. I am a native Californian who now lives in the Deep South. I know American Citizens who did not graduate from high school, and make minimum wage in a factory, and sorry to say this but working the type of job back home you'd expect a Mexican to be working. So you show me a "non documented worker" aka illegal who actually graduated from high school, got accepted into a college, and just needs some help with tuition? In terms of making society better, I think that is a good thing. I myself am the child of an immigrant (let me add legal) and can't stand seeing lazy Americans who were born here when I know so many immigrants who succeed in the human race so much better. And there is my useless fucking opinion.
I'm guessing you don't have any kids in grade school or high school and don't see what's going on. The schools here in California have a large percentage of Hispanics - all of whom speak poor English because it's not their native language. These kids aren't stupid, but because they barely speak English they can't pass the classes and are getting held back. This is creating an entire new class of citizens - Hispanics who flunk out of school because they can't speak English well enough.

I have two friends of mine, Jose and Sandra. They are both here illegally, but all three of their children were born in the US. She works cleaning houses, and he takes odd jobs under the table. Their daughter (who oddly enough shares the same birthday as me) was in my daughter's class. After six years of knowing this family, their daughter has failed an entire grade and been held back twice. Great kid, she's not stupid, and she speaks English - but not well enough to learn in it.
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