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Old 10-09-2011, 11:26 AM  
Kevin Marx
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Originally Posted by Failed View Post
This really pisses me off. I had to pay $8,000 out of my own pocket this year for my education. I received not one single dollar in financial aid. I'm by no means wealthy, and that 8k put a nice dent in my savings.

I believe education should be free in every country, at least for undergraduate degrees. Educated people produce and contribute to the economy. Investing in them will bring a return on investment. So, as a legal citizen born in this country that must pay for my education, to see illegal aliens get a free education, absolutely sickens me, infuriates me, and makes me further believe that the republic has failed and needs to be scrapped.
I have always found it interesting that college (undergraduate) used to be considered a BIG deal and now it seems to just be the "norm". Everyone assumes that going to college (sorry, not trying to put words in your mouth) guarantees something. It actually doesn't guarantee anything except debt for the borrower/student unless of course the tuition is paid for by someone else (get as poor as you can possibly be and the odds on receiving free, debt free money become a little better).

I graduated with 22K in debt in the early 90s. Paid it all off. Went through a bankruptcy and that shit doesn't pass through, so every penny plus interest got repaid. My college degree hasn't helped one iota in what I do now. Am I glad I went? Hell yeah. First person in my extended family to graduate. It was a goal I achieved. Would I recommend it to everyone? Hell no.

From what I know and have experienced, I would choose someone with experience 99.9% of the time over someone with a college degree. In fact, as a business owner, all things being equal except the degree...... I think I would still choose the person with experience as I could employ them at a lower rate than the person with the degree. Just simple economics is all.

College has become BIG BIG BIG business.

Why don't we keep the "FREE" education where it belongs? In public schools? Why don't we ensure that everyone graduates from high school at a better level and not make college (which is really fucking expensive to operate and to attend) the new high school?

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Originally Posted by epitome View Post
Its called a TIN you uneducated buffoon.

Granted as a whole they probably consume more than the produce tax wise but that is no excuse for your ignorance.
A TIN is for people that are legally here. You cannot get any number illegally except a stolen one.

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And whoever the next President is, regardless of party ... be Obama, Cain, Perry, etc won't do any better. The power-elite strongly influences who gets to run (Ross Perot found that out the hard way back in 1992), as well as what the President does while in office...

Flashback to when Obama won - before he had even taken office, as President-elect, he attended a Whitehouse meeting with President Bush and McCain, all agreeing on corporate bailouts - very strange until one realizes the power-elite dictates much of the policy not the President - he's a figurehead and little else.

Ron
Sounds like a conspiracy theory!!!!!

Of course there are people behind the Presidency. When it comes to money, there's almost always someone bigger that has more interest in what is occurring.
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