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Originally Posted by signupdamnit
I'm going to go with Barefootsies on this one. It all depends on the host and their policies.
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Agreed.
Only a ignorant trolling retard like Deej would make assertions otherwise trying to sum up the whole web hosting industry based on his meager 10-15 host experience. I can think of hosts off the top of my head that charge for OS reinstalls, among other (what I consider) minor things. That is their business model. Whatever. It must work for them. If you do not like their policies, do not host there.
That being said, you can clearly see this is more about his personal beef with me, not really the topic at hand. He's little more than an ignorant loud mouth, who relentlessly trolls people he doesn't like. You will find I rarely acknowledge his existence on GFY or in threads as I can barely tolerate his level of intelligence, if you want to call it that. In the end it really amounts to little more than "trying to prove Barefootsies wrong".
He will continue on in this thread like a dog with a bone. Typically the next follow ups by him will have something to do with "being respected" or that "he is well liked"... Ya know. All of those pedigree things that mean something in the real world when you have to pay your mortgage, or car loan.
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Originally Posted by Spudstr
If a host is "managed" but wont transfer sites from somewhere else to your box then its not managed.
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There could always be more to the story chief. Migration of the site could be simply moving the files, assuming that everything will work one moved. However, you and I both know there could be a lot more involved. Updating license IP's, file path routes, and trouble shooting involved.
In short, trouble shooting third party scripts. Which many hosts consider outside of normal support, hence they charge for it. Whether right, or wrong. That is how they do it. If you provide it for free, lovely. Nice sales for you. But to make the assumption all hosts will do this is simply not the case.
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Originally Posted by Spudstr
Its pretty simple. I don't know why the need for 2 pages of this debate.
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I do not think there is much of a debate really. It is simply a matter of defining what "managed" means at different hosts (full, basic, semi, etc.), and what they include in the price. Making an
assumption of what is included is basically what can lead to these issues. Many host simply do not trouble shoot third party scripts is a good example. If I had servers at MOJO/NATNET/Softlayer I would assume I was fully managed. If I was hosting at Burst, Joe's, Wholesale, etc. I would expect to be billed extra.
I am not saying it's right or wrong. I am simply saying that just as some hosts charge $25-35 for an OS reinstall. Some will migrate your files, but they are not going to trouble shoot your third party scripts for you all afternoon for free. The policies, the costs, and "what is covered" varies wildly from one company to the next. That was essentially the 'point'.
