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Old 10-03-2011, 06:39 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam View Post
There have been free sex cams in chatrooms for years and it has gone nowhere --Why?

For reason that 90% are guys "snaking" on cam -- stroking their cocks and looking for women to watch them. That is what you get for free ... Good deal for gay guys :=))
So far.

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Other cam sites have adopted the tips model in free chat this leads to "sexually explicit activity." While I have no problem with sexually explicit activity per se I do feel that it should be restricted view -- that restriction being that all reasonable attempts be made to prevent minors from viewing sexually explicit activity, this is mainly for legal reasons. Also, I don't need the bad publicity nor governmental interference that would come with the unwise decision, IMHO, to allow sexually explicit activity in the free chats.
They really don't care, like tubes don't care, nor paysites giving away free porn care at who see it.

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The difference is that we (as a cam business) actively manage the scenario in free chat whereas using Yahoo chat (and its cams) as example; the circumstance is that of *user actions* creating an affirmative defense of any liability for Yahoo as to the act itself -- this is a major consideration from my point of view.
Good. A well managed product is the solution.

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Offline publishing has become irrelevant as a profitable business activity. Paul, if you learned lessons from it 20 years ago that you could apply to contemporary marketing efforts then they are of value. If those lessons are limited to the enterprise of offline publishing they are worthless ...
A friend and I made a huge mistake years ago, long before most here had heard of online porn. He was selling discs of images, via adverting on Newsgroups. If we had launched a site, watermarked all the images we would of made a fortune. That's my real regret with online marketing. I did recognise the opportunity to sell images to paysites after I had sold them to magazines.

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I think the "rules" of selling are basically static but the marketing angle in selling is ever evolving. I still use the same basics of selling that I used 30 years ago but apply contemporary marketing influence to both my business model and the presentation of my offer. People still buy for the same basic reasons that they bought 3,000 years ago but if you are still trying to sell buggy whips today you won't sell shit ... Complaining that no one is buying my buggy whips is futile -- there is no market for buggy whips other than a very small niche.
The rules of selling haven't ever changed. Find a need, create a product to fill that need, find a person who has that need and sell your product to him.

When marketing involves killing the need to buy to fill the need. The marketing is destroying sales.

Yes everything evolves. And what worked online 10 years ago, in the paysite arena, doesn't work today. I can see that and keep throwing up ideas to change it. Might be the wrong ideas, but at least I'm throwing them up. See anyone else doing that?

Yes Shap just did it and he was applauded for saying the same thing as me. The content is the solution. By content I mean the entire product.

Still not had an answer to my original question.

Is there an affordable solution to the decline in paysite sales?
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