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Originally Posted by Robbie
Could be that nothing is "wrong". Could be you had 800 people go to the tour. 700 of them were 15 year old boys just curious what the tour looks like.
Another 50 or so could be some of the millions of people who look for "Free" pirated content and want to see if the tour has an update that they haven't yet downloaded from a pirate site (start reading the forums like porn bb dot org and you'll start to understand that).
So you MIGHT have 50 potential customers. Out of those, some are just window shopping.
In real life I can go to the mall and see thousands of people just walking around looking at stuff. They might come back next week to buy something when they have the money, but for now they are just scoping it out.
Now back 3 years ago...some of those 50 would be "impulse buyers". You know, cock in hand ready to jerk. Well...we don't have those anymore thanks to sites like Pornhub.
So now if you get ONE sale...you know what...you're doing pretty good in this environment.
Paul, you have to start posting in ways that make more sense in the real world.
NOTHING is caused by ONE THING. It's always a combination of factors.
And you are sort of trolling these guys because we all know that porn always sold itself. The only "marketing" was getting the advertising for the site in front of people's eyes.
That has now been taken away by tubes, torrents, and file share sites.
So now people who are "marketing" aren't really marketing porn. They are trying to "market" web cams and dating and pills and toys USING porn (which used to be the golden goose) as the way to get eyes on the product they are pushing.
But my point is...you are making posts that are so one-sided that it makes you look foolish.
You need to stop doing that and take ALL factors into account with your broad statements.
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Yes it could be 750 grandmothers going to the tour. Yes it could be 750 Chinese who don't own a card.
Excuses.
We all know since the beginning a bigger % have not bought. That 800 is a fraction of the people who saw the sample. Because the vast majority of people on TGP sites looked at a gallery and
never went to the tour.
Yes there are many factors for the decline in online porn. Squealer points out the main one. Bad Businessmen. In the beginning bad businessmen could make a lot of money in online porn. Then they became better, the worst were culled.
But read some of the replies to see the level of businessmen still in the business.
No one has a solution to the decline. A few are trying to imply it's not happening. The others are attacking other points.
Not one decent solution to the problems we face. Well not we, you left in the business face.
Idiots telling me I live in the past, while I'm talking about the future. Idiots telling me I'm clueless and offering nothing better. Idiots who think giving the product away to millions so thousands might buy is marketing. Idiots who think the right way to have a trade show is to keep out the real customers, better to give drinks to people who will never do anything for you. Idiots who
know that sites like FTV do well with a great member area. Then copy it with shit content. Yes and idiots who find "maybe" excuses for failures. And still do nothing to fix it.
Yes Squealer you're spot on. This industry was and still is full of idiots. Guys who come to see someone they know is a crap shooter, then after finding out they don't even like him, spend the rest of the day with him. A clever guy wouldn't of bothered to meet him.