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Old 09-30-2011, 08:31 AM  
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Originally Posted by MaDalton View Post
And Doug, nice to see you are giving streaming the same weight as download now. I remember doing a thread like 2 years ago asking why that isn't the case and at that time everyone still said that download is the only thing surfers want.
My friend, it was so good meeting you and getting to hang for a while! And I know - the streaming was a long time coming. It wasn't such a big deal in 2003. And in another eight to ten years, we'll need another retool.

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass View Post
Doug, I know your review site gives very worthy reviews... I was told which niche our sites were rather than placing them where I felt best. You're choices were more for the review & the surfer than for the sale
Cheers! I was disappointed I didn't see you in London this past weekend. It would have been nice to chat in person. ;)

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There's a lot of reasons that conversion rates, retention etc has dropped over the last few years and one of them is because companies have moved to catering to those with high end systems instead of going after the mass consumer. This is just another example of that. The US has been the prime market for everyone. But with the shit that's gone down with credit over the last few years, there's just not as many buying porn or that can afford the internet connections or computer systems to actually buy it. Emerging markets is where the future will be and those guys just won't have the systems to play a lot of the vids.

I look at it this way... Porn is about volume. Youtube is a volume video provider. They cater the masses as porn should. They don't encode videos to high bit rates so that practically anyone can watch the vids. The rise of the tube site should prove this point to anyone. Porn surfers don't really give a shit about high quality porn. They want to be able to view a lot of it to find just the right ones to get themselves off. A very small percentage of the surfers care about quality so why put so much time, money and effort into catering to them... Deliver to the masses and everyone will make a lot more money again.
I agree that emerging markets are going to hold a lot of wealth in the years to come and that they will want and be happy with what we were happy with eight years ago as far as file sizes and video quality. That's not our market, though.

And YouTube now has HD vids available. Any thought that they've been serving up lower quality vids has more to do with the fact that they run a free site than them trying to serve the desires of the public. People don't want tube-quality content. They just love it because it's the best free content they can get and it's not a killer on bandwidth. It will be different in ten years. People will love and expect better quality tube vids. It's the natural progression of things.

The people we serve at Rabbits are those that want to pay for premium content. Show them tube grade (as long as it isn't really niche & hard to find) and they won't be satisfied.

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He didn't complain about the video quality. He was complaining that what was advertised was not what was delivered. Big difference. Porn surfers aren't going to buy a membership because you have HD video. If they have a choice between a couple sites then that might be a factor. Porn consumers buy memberships because a site has the video(s) that they're interested in watching. Beyond that, everything else is just a bonus.
You're right. It wasn't a out-and-out complaint about quality, but he did write and ask about the 1080. He knew what he was after and knew he wasn't getting it. People want quality. They recognize it. If they didn't, we wouldn't be in business.
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