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Originally Posted by Minte
I don't think I pay for everything and didn't say I did. I said I am part of the group of US citizens that pay for the majority of the things that most in the US enjoys.
I could move my business to Mars and run it from Wisconsin. Technology has made it quite easy to make important fluid decisions no matter where I am.
I also didn't say do 6 figures a week. I said cover the payroll which is 6 figures a week.
Sales are obviously more than payroll.
And when you have experienced the same things in life I have then we might have something in common. The difference is significant. These words we discuss on a BBS are far more than words for me. I have to deal with the consequences of the governments actions on a real day to day basis.
You read about tax relief. Have you ever gone through an unannounced OSHA visit? Another form of tax for business. Our last OSHA visit cost us $5,750. for two items. An airhose that had the wrong nozzle and an electrical box that had knockouts.
How about a DNR permit. For our recent addition we had less than 1/2 an acre of land that fell into the wetlands category because of indigenous plant life. Not standing water. The fees so far including mitigation have been over $20,000. Then there is an impact fee for simply hooking up to the water main for the plants sprinkler system. That is 22,000.
These are all taxes on business that no one reads about on Politco. Yet they do exist.
We pay annual fees to at least 6 different state and federal agencies.
Should I go on?
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I understood that it was payroll and you would make more than that. I didn't say you pay for everything, it says everyone. After that I did say "everything you have, ever done, ever will do, was paid for by past generations of people" anyway....
I don't deal with OSHA, but I've spent $3 million dollars fighting the tax man over $10 million, they got $60k, and it cost us $3 million. Ever had to pay your way into Country before? Yeah, talk about fees, regs, rules, money.. yeah.
Edit: I think it was less than 3m... but not a shit ton or anything, we spent 4 total across 3 lawsuits, the tax one was huge either way, but I think the other one (not related to anything we're talking about) was the bigger one, then one small one, which.... was taken all the way to Supreme Court of Canada, we won.
We all have unique experiences, fees, fines, permits, etc to put up with, depending on the business we do, this is the cost of doing business.
I love big dick contests though, we can keep going if you like.