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Originally Posted by will76
Your post saying that he should sit down and talk to her nicely and she might consider what he has to say is what I thought was stupid, it had nothing to do with you meeting her. Talking to someone nicely isn't stupid, but that you think she would listen with an open mind as if she doesn't already know that what they doing. She knows she is running a con, hiding behind protecting the children, selling out the industry, and just trying to make as much money as she can. It's stupid for you to think that someone can call her out for this and she would see the light and change her ways.... if they talked to her nicely.
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All I was saying Will76, is that he would get no where telling her to STFU to her face, and that a much better idea would be to sit down and talk to her. There's nothing wrong with giving anyone the benefit of the doubt long enough to hear the story.
You're saying that she knows she's running a con. You can certainly think this, but you can't really know it.
Insulting me and calling me stupid isn't fair especially since I didn't call you stupid. I also never said that she would change her ways as I am sure she is committed to her cause. ALL I am saying that much can be learned, from BOTH SIDES, with a little bit of open dialog.
If the .XXX debate is ever going to be truly settled one way or the other, it has to be through noise-free conversation, wouldn't you agree?
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Originally Posted by Connor
My comment that she manipulated you is accurate. You have the "he bought me drinks" syndrome that many people have on here.
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Not at all. All I said was "She seems nice" and was "Nice to us". I am not defending Joan in any way. I'm doing is asking questions. You are full of hate towards Joan for reasons which seem only opinion based.
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Originally Posted by Connor
Just because you met the person a couple times and they seemed, nice, charming, said all the right things then those idiots online must have it all wrong because they don't know the person like you do.
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No, not at all. I've met "nice" people who are real bastards in business, or "nice" people who turned out to be real bastards in everything.
I also never said I "know" Joan. I've met her maybe 5 times in the past 7 years and talked to her for 2-3 minutes at a time. Again all I'm saying is that she "Seems nice", and "where are the URL's and links to anything rotten she may have said or done"?
I'm not defending her, I'm asking a question.
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Originally Posted by Connor
You have to defend her because the 10 minutes you talked to her she seemed like a nice genuine person.
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I'm not defending Joan, I'm asking a question.
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Originally Posted by Connor
Problem is, she manipulated you and made you believe that she is a good person, to the point you can't look at the facts that all of us see which is sooo obvious that she is full of shit.
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No Will76, not at all. She was nice to me, period. She seems like a nice person, period. She didn't talk to me at all about .XXX, or ASACP, or RTA. She didn't sell me anything, or take any time manipulating me towards anything, about anything, at any time.