Originally Posted by Connor

It's really simple... the industry needs to distance itself from Joan at every opportunity. She's exactly the kind of person we do NOT need claiming to represent us. My opinion of Joan is that she likes manipulating people and situations, is not a genuine person, and is in love with the idea of wielding power -- political or otherwise -- from behind the scenes. A perfect fit for ICM Registry and the whole .XXX debacle.

In all my time watching her with ASACP, I never saw anything whatsoever that lead me to believe she had any respect for our industry or for most of the people who work in this industry. In fact, seemed to me often to be just the opposite.

Problem is... it's hard for good people to accept that the friendly, smiling face they see in Joan at shows is something to scorn. I understand that, I really do. But at SOME point, we have to stop letting the leeches and manipulators sit at our tables and pretend to be our friends. If for no other reason than the self respect that comes from not allowing oneself to be a patsy.

Originally Posted by Connor

Mark, nobody wants to "talk" with Joan and "explain" things because she isn't some person who's trying to make up her mind on something, or someone who can be influenced, convinced or swayed. All that would accomplish is a helping of spin and bullshit. Joan knows what she's doing. She understands the .XXX issue, but has decided to be on THAT team anyway, knowing that it puts her at odds with something like 95% of the industry.