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Old 09-14-2011, 05:06 AM  
Wolfy
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Originally Posted by kane View Post
There is a big difference between someone who has been on unemployment for 12-18 months after losing their job and someone who has been on welfare for 10 years.

I fully agree that most people who are welfare long term have no desire to work. They have found a way to survive on the system and they are happy to do just that. Those are not the people we are talking about here. The long term unemployed are those who have been out of work more than 9 months and are actively looking for a job not those who have been on welfare for 5 years and have no interest in coming off of it.
I have two more things to add.

1. There is no way in hell I would ever be out of work for that long unless I simply didn't want to work. Yeah, maybe I'm a little better looking, a little more motivated, slightly more articulate, and overall a slightly better candidate... but my point is the same. The majority of people out of work that long don't want to work, enjoy collecting unemployment, and will likely make a bad employee.

Giving incentives to hire poor quality employees is backwards and will never work, just like the rest of Obama's ideas.

2. I did some of the math for those of you that do not have direct employees and may not understand that an employer has additional liabilities above and beyond the benefits and paycheck the employee receives. Namely Unemployment, Social Security, Medicare.

If you pay someone $40,000 per year ($20/hr) your employer liabilities start here:

$20/hr wages = $40,000
medicare at 1.45% = $580
Fed Unemployment .08% = $56
State unemployment 3.6% = $1440

total before other expenses: $44,556

That's before any health insurance, 401k, etc.

That's some food for thought, with facts on the side.

Cheers
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