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Originally Posted by plsureking
the problem i see, and the reason i wont take you seriously as a consulting partner, is that you keep telling everybody you are a marketing expert. you are not a marketing expert. you are a content expert.
if you branded yourself solely as a content expert -- which i DO believe you are -- then you would be focused and could attract some attention. when you start lecturing about marketing, affiliate management, members areas and other areas of the business where you clearly have not succeeded, people stop reading and dismiss you.
i sell marketing, i spend 20-50% of my week on marketing, but i am not a marketing expert. i muddle through it as best i can and refer the work i cant do myself. however there are guys here who do marketing 12 hours a day and are masters of traffic. these guys are marketing experts.
most 'pro' photographers probably dont want advice from you, but there is definitely a huge audience for your advice about content in the solo and amateur markets. people like LeluLove dont have professional photography training or 30 years of experience in shooting porn, so they might be open to some advice and tips. i highly doubt they would take you seriously as a marketing expert tho, which is why i wouldn't refer you.
stick to what you know and keep quiet about what you dont know (even tho you think you do). your history shows your expertise in shooting. it shows your weakness is marketing. you cant hide this with thousands of words of unread typing on gfy. if you were an expert in marketing, Manwin would have hired you to manage some sites, not shoot a solo scene.
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Is marketing only about driving traffic or is it also about shaping the product to present?
No matter how good my shooting was, I had to be able to present it. Shape and make sure it fits the needs of the consumers. That's also marketing.
I'm no expert on driving traffic. That's largely a a different animal today and very much about numbers.
Telling a girl how to present herself to the audience, deliver her message and how to improve the product, is also very important.
You shied away from my offer. Thinking I would tell anyone how to drive traffic or affiliates is wrong. Give me access to a site and see what I can tell you as a test.
The comment about pro shooters not wanting to listen is wrong. Madalton and Lykos listened. About photography I could teach that very quickly, about shaping the porn package and maybe improving, can do that and it takes longer. Photography isn't pornography. The difference is vast, the common ground is we both use a camera.
I'm more about using my charm to get a girl to give something more to the camera than others could. As are most professional pornographers.
Give me access and read what I have to say. Won't tell you anything about driving traffic, might be able to help the girls convert and keep more of the traffic.
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Originally Posted by porno jew
that is where you are wrong. his content is absolute garbage. he sold a few sets back in the primitive days of porn when standards were lower. ever seen his crap?
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This illustrates perfectly the level of some "marketing" people. Either blind, stupid or just blabbing. We shot 2,000 sets in the last 8-9 years. Try doing that and not selling them.