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Old 09-08-2011, 03:37 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by plsureking View Post
when u got throat cancer did you tell yourself everybody else got it too? the whole industry doesn't have money problems just because you are having problems.
No I didn't think everyone got throat cancer. Where did you get that idea?

As many are jumping out of online porn I would think many do. Or do you think they're getting out while making loads of money.

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there is more spent on porn now than there ever was at anytime in the last decade. there are just way more players taking a piece. its called the long tail. if you add up the annual sales of all the PornCMS customer websites, it is 10x+ higher than we were making in 2002-2004 at Hegre. there's just hundreds of sites sharing the same cake.
You base this on what audited data. Or are you saying it's so and we accept it?

That's the problem with the debate of what made the most money, online or offline. The little date there is, is mostly offline and mostly the production end of porn. I suggest you look at the production figures of a major offline porn company, multiply the figure of titles produced by 10,000, multiply that by the sales price ($30-$40) in a shop, to get a better picture of offline porn. Then add rental and cable retail sales. And you have the revenue of the US market. Now think World Wide.

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you will never get the lion's share of the market anymore (although Manwin is trying), but you can do a hell of a lot better opening a good site than you can working a 9-5 or opening a local bakery.
But not as much as could be earned opening a porn shop.

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its all about perspective, Markham, and i think you lost your perspective, along with your motivation to be a player in this business.
Yes all about perspective. I have a perspective that covers online and offline porn. Yours is obviously just one narrow perspective.

For a perspective of the value of offline porn read this, Ann Summers on Wikipedia. In 2007-2008, Ann Summers had an annual turnover of £117.3 million( $200 million).

Scary hey. Do you know an online company doing that?

And this is why I'm negative about the route online porn took. Manwin could be making that, along with RK and Bangbros and others. In fact they could be making far far more. They don't publish audited accounts, so we can only guess.
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