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Old 08-12-2011, 06:19 PM  
moeloubani
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They don't have to be. They can suffer the consequences of making everyone uncomfortable, of making everyone in the region insecure, of making radical speeches, of threatening to wipe Israel off the map, of not cooperating with UN weapons inspectors, of not fulfilling their end of the obligations they have under the treaties that govern these things and so on... they don't have to cooperate.



So what? I don't care. I don't agree with much of the past. But in 2012, its irrelevant what happened in 1979 or whatever.

That still doesn't explain kicking out the IAEA inspectors and continually lying about their intentions. That doesn't explain their refusal to cooperate with the rest of the world in any way, shape or form when it comes to verifying what they are doing. That doesn't explain the concern of the rest of the world.

USA sucks. Lets just put that out there and agree on it.

That still leaves the problem of dicey regimes trying to arm themselves with the worst imaginable weapons and wanting everyone to believe they will use them. The USA being full of assholes doesn't address the threat and concerns that are shared by all developed nations with respect to Iran.




That's a dream that just never comes true. This is the game these nations play... just like N Korea... do just enough to get some food, money, medicine, oil and trade... then go back to starting more shit so they can get even more... doing so while being in full violation of all their agreements and pursuing their long term agenda and goals.

Further, it runs counter to human behavior. Those without much power and status, continually seek more power and status. This is true of individuals, of groups and of nations. They will not stop until they have nuclear weapons and then they will start making threats with them. Thats exactly how the game works.

Why anyone would say "hey, i think these guys are legit and really need to have nuclear weapons pointed in every direction - but lets forget their obligation to die killing infidels, they just need a hug" needs their own head checked.

I guess..... well... why not? lets give the fanatical extremists in an unstable government and unstable nation and who believe its their obligation to die killing anyone who doesn't share their religious views and who will stone a 13 year old girl to death for being raped, nuclear weapons. Whats the worse thing that could happen?
So you aren't okay with Iran kicking out IAEA people even after they let them inspect, but you're perfectly okay with Israel, a country that hasn't signed the NPT and doesn't allow any weapons inspectors into their country at all. Even Iran allowed them in.

Why support Israel and their nuclear weapons but not Iran? Do you think Israel is in as much danger with Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt surrounding it as Iran is with Iraq, Afghanistan and the whole might of the largest military on Earth at its doors? Get real.

The worst thing that could happen is what the United States already did, using nuclear weapons against innocent people. It already happened. The ones that are asking Iran to not have nuclear weapons are the bad guys, you know, the ones who killed innocent people with nuclear weapons.

So what you want is for Iran to not have a way to defend themselves when the US or Israel unleashes their nuclear weapons on the innocent Iranian people. Why does Iran not have the right to defend themselves against two countries that have consistently broken international laws and acted in defiance of the UN and other large international governing bodies?
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