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Old 08-12-2011, 12:12 PM  
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla View Post
I guess all the nuclear submarines and surface ships that I identified as a sonar tech were all Bull Shit?

Major part of my job was analyzing soviet ships, I knew more about their Navy than I knew about ours. Basing the soviet threat on the end of the cold war, which was in 91 is just showing how limited your comment is

You don't have a clue as to the history of how the USSR was bankrupted trying to keep up with the US spending on arms and then the bottom falling out of oil prices.

Maybe you thought all those nukes were fake, I moved some of ours around, they were very real.

I guess the bay of pigs was all faked too, you know, having nukes right off our shoreline?

Where do you get your news from, Cracker Jacks boxes?
I know history well. I know Russian history well, both contemporary, soviet and pre-soviet. I've also spent a significant portion of my life in Russia. Which i'm guessing you haven't. I've been all over Russia and lived in many Russian cities, large and small. I speak Russian. I am well aware of their military capability. I am also well aware of how broken down the country was and how much of their military was broken as well. Having submarines, having tanks, having cool jets, helicopters and so on is hardly the same as having a well maintained, well trained and cohesive fighting force that can strike with accurate, lethal and overwhelming force. Russia was more about show and propaganda than a real threat. Of course the soviet union had a massive nuclear arsenal. That doesn't mean the Soviet military wasn't still a broken down joke. Again... they called in their elite to quell a coup in their own nations capital as a show of force to the world and 1/2 the equipment broke before it could get 10km.

So save your flag waiving, i'm not interested, i don't care. You can argue these points all day long, so can I. I can give 1000s of examples of how fucked up and broken they were.

Obviously when someone is building 1000s of nukes and pointing them your way, you take them seriously no matter what.

The simple truth is that the Soviet Union and the threat, was a lot of hype. Not that they weren't a military threat to be taken seriously, but that they had only a fraction of the capability in terms of reliable hardware of the US.

After the Soviet Union, it simply got worse. 15K Chechens with light machine guns, sniper rifles and RPGs fully fucked up the Russian military and defeated them. That is what i'm talking about with regards to their "true capability".
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