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Originally Posted by SimonScans
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Ultimately who gives a fuck why rioters riot. As long as I know I can defend my family and property from whatever comes through my front door then I really don't care. That's one for social workers and good luck with that. The problem is I can't. The riots were sparked by a north London bad lad getting shot by the plod. His specific crime was to have a handgun - just having one got him shot and killed. All handguns were banned a few years ago in the UK for the law abiding, and in any event, the most recent case where a remote rural farmer shot and killed an intruder in his farmhouse resulted in his jailing for our equivalent of murder one.
Everyone is asking today which state run service has failed them. And there's the brit mindset right there - it's YOUR job to look after me. But the real question is why aren't we allowed to take our own precautions? Actual precautions, ones that might stop five people in your hallway, when everything else has failed.
Just for the record, I don't own a gun and don't have a baseball bat under my bed, but then I don't live in a shitty area. I'd just like the option to do so if I chose.
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They were sparked off by the Police killing someone they said had a gun.
We don't know if it was a gun, a replica or if it was in a sock somewhere in his car. We do know that the police have lied about him shooting at them. We also know that the police lie on a regular basis. knowing that the tabloid press will print the lie BIG and bury the correction weeks later on page 6. So instant press release call him a drug dealer and say that he shot at them first.
The problem with our poor farmer was he shot them in the back trying to leave. You have the right to defend yourself but not to execute people, only the US president is allowed to shoot unarmed criminals in cold blood.
Something stop 5 people in your hallway?
either a gun with 6 bullets or a society at peace with it self where everyone gets a fair chance, employment, education housing etc.