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Originally Posted by kane
I'm not going to argue with you over this. I made an agreement with myself to not get swept into your ring of bullshit and I only made a few responses here because I didn't want to be completely rude and ignore you.
1. You are reading a lot into what he wrote and assuming a lot. I want to hear what he means from him - not you.
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i am not the person putting words in his mouth
he specifically said
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I doubt Jim Delligatti is still cashing checks on every Big Mac sold.. have any proof to back that up ?
but even if he is , wich I doubt, they are actually selling a real product .;
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in addition to him saying it was ok to sell cd (physical product)
and you responded with
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Maybe I have misunderstood you. Are you advocating that all music should just be free? That a band should record a record and then just put it out there for free and make all of their money off of touring?
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no where in any of his post did he advocate that all music should be free
advocating that the pirate sources should be left alone is not nor will it ever be the same as advocating that everything must be free
musicians can still sell their shit even if the pirate sites are left completely untouched
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2. If a band records a record and people are willing to buy it they should be paid for that. It doesn't matter if the album was originally recorded a week, a month, a year or a decade ago.
3. If you want to use a band's music in a TV show or movie or some kind of commercial endeavor that you are going to make money on then you either need to pay them for it OR get their permission to use it for free.
That is it. That is all I have been trying to say. That is what I believe and I don't really care if you agree with it or not.
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and i pointed out all your analogies and arguments only justify the 2nd point not the 3rd
if you want to compare piracy to stealing nothing justifies the 3rd
it can't because the second you buy a physical good you have the right all kinds of things with that product WITHOUT the permission of the creator.
It only when you get into the weird IP world that you need to get permission and those weird EXTRA rights are balanced by concept of fair use.