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Old 07-25-2011, 05:56 PM  
kane
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The problem isn't some of the entitlement programs. It is abuse of these entitlement programs. Here is the reality. We don't hear about all the people who are illegitimately disabled and living on disability and food stamps/government subsidized housing. Many of these people had to jump through a million hoops and slash through a lot of red tape just to get enough to barely survive on. What we do hear about is guys like Rochhard's friend who is basically fine, but cashing in. We hear about the people who scam the system or understand the loopholes in the system so they can get get paid and aren't really sick. I have seen it myself. I used to work with a woman who quit her job because she was able to get herself, her son, her son's newborn baby and her son's girlfriend (baby mamma) all on disability. Between the four of them they were getting 6K a month plus food stamps and housing help and all of them were fine. I actually called and reported them, but I don't know if it did any good. I was once in a grocery story with a woman behind me who had a kid that was about 3 and was pregnant. she was talking to her friend about how she was going to move in a few months because when the baby came the government was going to be giving her a "raise" and helping her get a bigger place. She had no shame and felt like raising her family was all she had to do to "earn" that money.

So those who abuse the system cause those who run the system to add more layers of red tape in an effort to stop the abuse which makes it harder for those who actually need the money to get it. This abuse has caused the system to become bloated and corrupt. (I'm speaking here of Welfare/foodstamps/disability etc. Actual social security and medicare are a different beast).

If there was a better way to stop the abuse the system would work great and would not cost us that much and people likely wouldn't be complaining about it.
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