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Originally Posted by tony286
without gov spending my friend there wouldnt of been funding for the creation of the net. So you and I and most of the people in this forum should thanking their lucky stars for gov funding. lol During Eisenhower the road system wouldn't of happened without heavy gov spending. Now we got the lowest tax rates in this country and a road and bridge system falling apart.
Its more like you cant pay your bills but are only willing work a part time job. You and I pay a roughly a third of our income in payroll taxes . Where some hedge fund manager making 4 billion a year pays 15% or google pays 4 percent in business taxes. That doesnt work and of course spending will go up more people, things get more expensive. But while that's all happening you keep collecting less. It doesn't work.
I said it before I want the extreme right to win it all. The middle class needs a real wake up call that the people they talk about arent you. And then maybe things get real shitty we will get a real progressive because the democrats arent progressives they are republican lite. People are foolish when they call them liberals because they are so far from that. Probably the only two real liberals are Bernie Sanders and Dennis Kucinich.
by the way raising the debt ceiling is to pay our current debts not raise spending.
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Tony, funding the internet is fine when you aren't in debt.
Eisenhower built the interstate system to be able to move large military vehicles across the country. And as I recall, Pres. Clinton raised the national tax on gasoline back in the 1990's to supposedly fund our highways.
My point is...that the President and Senate and House are STILL SPENDING MORE each year! They aren't even slowing down. Well wait... the GROWTH of spending is what they are fighting about slowing ever so slightly.
This isn't a Dem vs. Repub fight.
It's just this simple: As soon as they raise the debt ceiling they will spend that money.
IF they were to raise all of our taxes they will SPEND that money. They won't use it to actually pay off the debt. Oh no. They will find shit to SPEND it on.
Tony, my opinion is this: They need to STOP SPENDING. And then once it is law that they can NOT spend any more money...then they need to figure out how much extra revenue to bring in and focus all of it on nothing BUT paying the debt off once and for all.
Politicians are going to spend every dollar they get...and then as I just showed you about August coming up (174 in, 303 out) they will borrow twice as much and keep spending.
It's total insanity. And politicians trying to shame me because I need to GIVE them more of my money? Bullshit. They won't STOP SPENDING. It's just crazy.
If you or I tried that it would never work. We'd probably be in prison. Which is where ALL of those scoundrels in Washington D.C. deserve to be.