Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

I get that, but that was not truly my point. IMO the US is heavily divided on political ideology as they point the finger on cuts the other-side should lose as they also place blame on political parties when the true problem is us. Americans got soft with our great wealth and turned into a country of entitlements and it's well past being logical. Personally, I've never got a dime from any State or Fed program, ever.

Anyway, one day at the grocery store I was waiting behind and obese lady and her kids who were loading up sodas, ice cream, etc and then went to pay for it with FS-debit card. The checker then told this lady that some of the items purchase don't qualify for food stamps. The women starts arguing with the lady on each item in question, three minutes on fucking sliced Tyson chicken, alone.

As she was arguing I looked down and saw that her card was well used and instead of being grateful for a free food assistance program, she felt that having to cook her own chicken and slice it, would just be asking too much.

So what does this have to do with raising the debt ceiling? Again, we've turned into a country of entitlements. I personally believe we need to stop borrowing money, being the world police, regulate banks, Tax corporations fairly, and get back to being citizens that understand the difference from a hand-up from a hand-out.

It's amazing how Americans can so easily forget our great depression past. Did you know that 30% of the recruits who tried to join the military at the beginning of WW2 were rejected because of malnutrition? Did you know when soldiers were earning a steady income for serving their wives or family paid their welfare back?

Did you know in the past when Corporations try to weasel out of paying taxes and got themselves in trouble in foreign countries the government said, too fucking bad?

I don't want the economy to crash or go back to the living standards of the GD, but there's no way, even with a 50% tax increase for everyone to save this economy. Americans are discovering that hope and change won't pay their mortgage or raise their own CC debt limit/ceiling.

The sad part is we are truly in a lot of trouble and the rest of the world sees this, but most Americans don't have a clue because they'd rather argue that sliced chicken should be allowed on the food stamp program.