Originally Posted by AndreaM

In Jay and Connor's defense - they had no idea that Nalem was shooting for .XXX until they arrived in San Francisco. They were mid-travel when it was announced.

In defense of all the shows that allow ICM to participate - there is no benefit to keeping them away. Attempting to sweep them under the rug by pretending they don't exist, not only won't make ICM go away, it WILL serve to make us complacent about it as an industry.

And - as much as I really hate .XXX - in defense of Vaughn Liley - he's a decent guy who has some serious balls to keep showing up to every show and tell his side of things - and for the most part, does so with tremendous grace.

I suppose my point is - you all hate on the "sellouts" now - because they're in your face - which keeps the issue in your face, and that's a good thing. Once people stop talking about it - or it gets swept under the rug, complacency about the issue itself will set in - and that is when the REAL threat of .XXX can begin to become a reality.

Originally Posted by ThumbLord

Well Julius should be the only one shooting pics/video's for any convention.
He is/should be the only one be allowed to cover any serious webmaster access/convention.

Easy as 1,2,3, just one official press coverage, thread closed.


OK let the flaming be started.