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Originally Posted by kane
This has nothing to do with my rights as a copyright holder. We are debating whether or not having access to the internet is a basic human right. You argued that a car is not a communication device like the internet is, I was simply pointing out that it is.
Take your meds and stay on topic.
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so we are going back to your bullshit copyright is not a monpoly even the supreme court declared it as one, becausse i say so bullshit again.
you were not right then and you are not right now
UN treaty defines what is and is not a basic human right
the UN treaty says it a free speech, the right to voice your oppinion
BTW you don't have to drive your car to have the free speech your talking about
that free speech works just as well if you push your car around the block.
that a huge difference between that and taking away an entire medium of communication.
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And the internet is something given under conditions as well. Those conditions are that you have to order and pay for it. In some places if you don't have good enough credit or pay a deposit they won't give it to you. You could get free access from a school or a library, but there are likely rules that go along with that as well. For example, if you go to your local library, log onto a porn site, get naked and start jerking off, likely they are going to revoke your privileges. If you a student and get free access from your school and you use that access to run a filesharing site that bogs down their entire network, they are going to revoke your access.
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seriously are you actually so stupid as to equate limiting access conditiionally to a complete outright ban
kiddie porn is a limiting condition, are you going to make the arguement that we should out right ban all porn because under limited conditions (kids being filmed it restricted)
here is the difference the "rights" your talking about are not universally recognized by every country in the UN as basic human rights, free speech is.
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Again, we aren't discussing this. Stay on topic.
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i am making a point about the double standard your having
if you truely believe that absolute rights can be taken away because conditiional rights can be taken away
you should believe that copyriight holder rights should also be allowed too be taken away
as you pointed out
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You are always saying that you are against copyright violation and you don't commit copyright violation so what is the big deal? If a person has a legitimate and legal reason to be downloading something they have nothing to worry about. Only those who break the law consistently need worry.
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so only the copyright holders who REPEATEDLY abuse the reporting process will lose their copyright.