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will76 · 06-03-2011, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

Well, of course I am going to encourage people to buy my product, but there's nothing wrong with that. And to be very clear, I never tell that it's an "investment". We even say so on our site that LiveCamNetwork is a "tool", nothing more. He is also clearly shopping around, so he knows there are lots of alternatives to us. Didn't mean to be spammy; I just have a big forum-mouth.

I don't wonder why at all. Some people who get into the webcam (or other adult) biz are blinded by visions of rap music videos and think that adult is nothing more than being surrounded by girls with big tits, limo's, cash and drugs. Even when we tell people that this is a serious business and to be prepared to do alot of work and spend alot of money, their dreamy dreams still take over.

There are alot of people I flat-out refuse to work with. For example, here are some of the calls we have received in the past few months. These are all real.

- "I don't need a computer for this, do I?"

- "Why do I need to advertise if I already have a website?"

- "I want to tell customers its girls but when they go private it they find out they are really chatting with are trainnies. Guys love that shit!! But I don't want to advertise trannies on my site because that would be gay".

- "Where can I put my server so I don't need to get photo ID's of the boys I hire?"

- "I moved to the Philippines because American police won't leave me alone"

- "When people are born in the Philippines they are already at age 1. Therefore I can hire 17 year old girls right?"

- "I'm going to spam 1 Million people. Even if I only get 10% at $100 sign ups that's still $10,000 !!"

- "My 48 year old wife can pass for a teen no problem!"

- "So I'll buy ads on my credit card then stop the payment. Then I'll go to another ad place buy up the ad space and stop that payment too" (..he said while asking me if he could buy our software by credit card)

- "Chargebacks are bullshit! I should be paid even when there is a chargeback. It's not my problem its your problem! I demand you call CCBill and make them change their policy RIGHT NOW or I will sue you!"

- "Can I rebill my customers but not tell them about it?"

- "Can I run recorded videos instead of live feeds? Stupid geek losers who pay for this shit won't know the difference and they're fags anyway"

Noobs, sigh.

Sounds like you set the bar at IQ of 60, which means pretty much if they are legal and breathing and have the money you willing to make the sale. Seriously the questions above sound like something a kid would ask. You might want to raise the bar a little higher.

The original poster obviously has no clue what he is getting himself into and has no knowledge what so ever based on the questions he is asking here. Yet you jump in with your advice being, "first, buy a license for my software". That is not the first thing someone in his situation should do. This has fail written all over it and you know it. If he is not the norm that you deal with then how in the hell did you take on "clients" who knew less then him. Which is why you deal with so many disgruntled clients, because you advise them to buy a license and make it sound like "well all you have to do is get some girls, go make an account with company xyz for traffic, and with our software you would be all set." Does it ever work out that way for them???

Again, I don't blame your software or your concept, just seeing first hand now how you jump on people with no clue as if you are the solution they need where there is no shot in hell they ever going to make money, that I blame you for. Especially when you get defensive when people fail and get mad at you, when you take the approach like you do in this thread I think you do share some of the blame when they fail since you were the one to sell them in the first place.