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Old 05-30-2011, 11:05 AM  
Robbie
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Originally Posted by Nathan View Post
Robbie,

it does not matter if its a different business model. It's still uploaded files from 3rd parties. Which means we can never be 100% sure they are legal. You could get an account and upload a PRVT video. How should we know its not one of yours?! Explain that to me.

Thus, it still requires DMCA law.

My questions, also, were not about how we should change our business model. It was about changing the DMCA law you all say is full of "loopholes" without actually understanding it 100%. But when I ask for what you would change to remove those loopholes, you can not actually give me anything, all you say is I should stop allowing user uploaded content... that's just a brainless answer.

It would be awesome if at any point in time you would actually have the dignity to truly discuss this subject without calling me names, but I guess that is not possible for you to do... I'll survive... I am actually trying to discuss this to understand what you would suggest, but if you have no actual suggestions, so be it.
The reason I call you names is because you are either deliberately acting stupid or you are. Either way it makes you look incredible inept to me.

I'll explain this to you slowly...Since 1996 I ran TGP's.
Around 2001 I stopped taking submissions because my traffic was too valuable and I made a lot more money off of hosted galleries.

I signed up for over 400 programs and ran their galleries.

THAT is what I would do with your tubes. I would sign up for all those programs, then I would go to each one and ASK for some of their older vids...perhaps ones that were already on Pornhub in the past.

Then I would set up trusted accounts for paysite owners only. Then I would CAREFULLY set up the page templates for their videos based on the niche of their sites. Keeping the pre-paid shit less "spammy" looking so the page actually makes some sense and has the ability to sell something for the pre-paid sponsor AND the video owner.

And finally I would look at each vid uploaded. And I would personally decide which ones went up each day.

Just like a TGP operated.

No need for DMCA or stealing.

And I'd set this all up while the current Pornhub was still live. Once everything was in place I'd flip the switch and change you from being a hated thief into being the biggest and most profitable affiliate in the world.

That good enough for you? I was willing to come to see you personally and map this out.

Why? Because you're my bestest friend in the world?
No.
Because I believe that if I could make Manwin enough money doing things the right way, that it could be an industry changer and help raise up many of these paysites from the dead. Which would increase production across the board and make the entire industry healthier.

If the biggest tubes in the world (Manwin's) followed this plan and were successful, then others would naturally fall in line. Just like they fell in line naturally with the current fucked up system.

There you go Fabian.
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