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Old 05-20-2011, 06:21 PM  
gideongallery
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Originally Posted by kane View Post
If every major film studio came to The Pirate Bay and offered this system to them to verify that their downloaders own the content they are downloading so they can be sure all downloads are legal and they paid to have the technology developed AND they paid for any cost to operating this system AND they covered any cost that the site would have in regards to running this system the site would still turn them down flat. We both know it. If they were forced to only supply their services to legit customers they wouldn't make nearly the amount of money they make now.
your wrong

if all fair uses including access shifting was respected then bit torrent would just be another medium you could legally get your content

that a hell of a lot of people who could legally choose bit torrent as a medium.



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Relax, take your meds then once they have kicked in go back and read what I wrote again. Nowhere do I mention any of this. I simply stated that sites like The Pirate Bay will never work with studios to provide a legitimate service to customers because it is far more profitable to offer it to those who want it illegally.
you can make such a claim until you try

and again if access shifting was respected you would need the support

competition (legitimate bit torrent provider) would win.



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If the studios themselves offered this service I mentioned so their customers could get backups of their content how much traffic do you think it would take away from a site like the Pirate Bay? Would it be as much as 1%? I doubt it. Why? Because most of the people (other than those downloading TV shows) are taking stuff they have never paid for and don't have the right to own.
53% of all torrent traffic is tv shows

and it growing every single year

there is no way in hell you can come to the conclusion it would only be 1% change in traffic

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You insist on allowing an illegal enterprise to operate in the name of a tiny number of legit customers who are just backing up their content.
and the only reason it a "tiny number of legit customers" is because your deliberately lying about the numbers.


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In theory if the studios provided free backups to those who can prove they own the content and free download of TV shows for those that can prove they paid for it/have access to it then realistically there would be no need for a site like The Pirate Bay to exist because all customers would have that service now available to them from the studios. Yet we both know The Pirate Bay and sites like it would continue to thrive and you would continue to support them.
i only download content i paid for from bit torrent

i use bit torrent as a vcr

if the studios gave me the same benefit as bit torrent give me i would bother using the pirate bay


I am point blank saying if every fair use including access shift was fully supported by the copyright holders i would not support the pirate bay one bit

You have no right to call me a liar, and tell me what i think.

especially when i have already told you this before

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sure i don't care who get the ad views if it my fair use right is provided for free.
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