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will76 · 05-18-2011, 06:56 PM

Now back to the grown up conversation where people can try to hold some form of a mature, intelligent conversation...

I took a look at Xbiz.com to see who was advertising there. A couple quick refreshes on front page, big banners and I noticed the following companies:

PimpRoll
AEBN
Gammae
Alimighty Content Webcams
Emerchant Pay
Woodman Casting X
Alcuda
Payment Network
Live Bucks
Hustler Cash
Zombaio

Looks like an aweful lot of companies that advertise heavily to affiliates and run affiliate programs. Most of them do not come across as the type to advertise on XBiz so they can do business with other businesses. Is Hustler Cash for example advertising on Xbiz to try to find a new host, or payment processor, or hoping a cam company will see their ad and contact them so they can work out a deal trading some traffic? And if they were to want to do a deal with another company, I am sure they would contact that company directly not place an ad hoping other companies would contact them.

I think the majority of these (AVN, Xbiz, Ynot) type of sites are still geared towards companies to advertise so they can pick up new clients. In the majority of the cases the *client* is going to be someone to promote their affiliate program. Even most of the payment processors are geared to the small webmaster. The exact same people who are getting squeezed out of business or getting bought out in all of the consolidation that is going on. Is another big company going to see an ad on Xbiz for a Hosting company and say, hey would she give them a try. I doubt that rarely if ever happens. The host is targeting the small webmasters and affiliates, someone who wants to switch to someone else to save money or because they are just starting out and they don't know who to use and they just saw an ad.

Apparently these companies still have money allocated to advertising for affiliates or *clients* but I wouldn't be surprised that more and more of them stop in the near future as they see its big waste of money, for one or more of the several reasons I already stated, not just because a lack of new clients gained. I wonder how many have already stopped in the last 6,12 months and pulled their ad budgets... It's also funny how many of them don't even code their links (didn't pay attention to the xbiz ones but in general) I have seen a lot of companies buying ads and not code their links. The site might not be sending them any clients for all they know.

This thread was about why "Xbiz to go out of business" I've expanded it for the purposes of my thoughts to all companies like xbiz, and am not picking on just xbiz. These are my opinions, I don't expect everyone to share them, but I have no dog in the fight. I have nothing against the adult industry news, forums, resource and mag sites. I just looks crystal clear from a non biased by stander, from the perspective of the very person that many people are buying ads from those sites to try to attract. I feel I have a pretty good vantage point and feel for whats going on in the industry. Of course I don't expect you to agree but time will tell and deep down inside I think a few of you look at your sales and it reaffirms what I am saying you just either don't want to believe it or would never post about it.

But... OMG I don't get the Xbiz mag in the mail, so I wtf do I know... lol

05-18-2011, 06:56 PM
will76 Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 18,037	Now back to the grown up conversation where people can try to hold some form of a mature, intelligent conversation... I took a look at Xbiz.com to see who was advertising there. A couple quick refreshes on front page, big banners and I noticed the following companies: PimpRoll AEBN Gammae Alimighty Content Webcams Emerchant Pay Woodman Casting X Alcuda Payment Network Live Bucks Hustler Cash Zombaio Looks like an aweful lot of companies that advertise heavily to affiliates and run affiliate programs. Most of them do not come across as the type to advertise on XBiz so they can do business with other businesses. Is Hustler Cash for example advertising on Xbiz to try to find a new host, or payment processor, or hoping a cam company will see their ad and contact them so they can work out a deal trading some traffic? And if they were to want to do a deal with another company, I am sure they would contact that company directly not place an ad hoping other companies would contact them. I think the majority of these (AVN, Xbiz, Ynot) type of sites are still geared towards companies to advertise so they can pick up new clients. In the majority of the cases the client is going to be someone to promote their affiliate program. Even most of the payment processors are geared to the small webmaster. The exact same people who are getting squeezed out of business or getting bought out in all of the consolidation that is going on. Is another big company going to see an ad on Xbiz for a Hosting company and say, hey would she give them a try. I doubt that rarely if ever happens. The host is targeting the small webmasters and affiliates, someone who wants to switch to someone else to save money or because they are just starting out and they don't know who to use and they just saw an ad. Apparently these companies still have money allocated to advertising for affiliates or clients but I wouldn't be surprised that more and more of them stop in the near future as they see its big waste of money, for one or more of the several reasons I already stated, not just because a lack of new clients gained. I wonder how many have already stopped in the last 6,12 months and pulled their ad budgets... It's also funny how many of them don't even code their links (didn't pay attention to the xbiz ones but in general) I have seen a lot of companies buying ads and not code their links. The site might not be sending them any clients for all they know. This thread was about why "Xbiz to go out of business" I've expanded it for the purposes of my thoughts to all companies like xbiz, and am not picking on just xbiz. These are my opinions, I don't expect everyone to share them, but I have no dog in the fight. I have nothing against the adult industry news, forums, resource and mag sites. I just looks crystal clear from a non biased by stander, from the perspective of the very person that many people are buying ads from those sites to try to attract. I feel I have a pretty good vantage point and feel for whats going on in the industry. Of course I don't expect you to agree but time will tell and deep down inside I think a few of you look at your sales and it reaffirms what I am saying you just either don't want to believe it or would never post about it. But... OMG I don't get the Xbiz mag in the mail, so I wtf do I know... lol __________________ ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread) FNCash \| Media Revenue Last edited by will76; 05-18-2011 at 07:11 PM..