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Originally Posted by **********
Any big mouthes in this thread who have never met the people behind these companies or fully understands what they do, how they work, or how successful they really are, should STFU. Ask questions then read the answers. Don't spew off your own versions of the "facts" in lame attempts to discredit hard working people or companies just because of what you THINK. That kind of BS does not make you more credible at all - it makes you LESS credible.
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Not sure if that is directed at me, but since I am a "big mouth" posting in this thread... just so you know, I've meet Jay and Connor at a show. Not that I think it really matters or is essential to have meet the owners of these companies to have a common sense opinion of where you see the market and future going for them.
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Originally Posted by Atticus
Thank you so much for taking the time to educate me on proper spin technique.
In your original post that started all of this you said absolutely nothing about affiliates. You said Xbiz would be one of the last viable adult companies left within 12-24 months. Which begs the obvious question:
If XBiz depends on other companies to advertise then how in the hell will they be one of the last viable companies left if there are no companies left to advertise?
You then deflect, post stupid pics, act like a condescending jackass and finally do an about face and say affiliates will be gone but they'll be plenty of companies left to place ads. So basically what we all thought in the first place. You blindly rushed in to kiss some ass and made a comment you couldn't possible back up with any reasonable opinion because it was absolute horse shit and ridiculous in the first place.
I do read the hard copy and I know who's placing ads now. The question is who will be placing ads in 12-24 months? As I've stated above I personally think XBiz will be fine. But I also don't have such a bleak outlook as you do. I think they'll be plenty of companies left and also a place for the affiliate model. YOU are the one who said otherwise.
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Exactly, no need for me to reply to him to say the same things. If he wants to make stupid comments then cant back them up he should simply just reply back saying " I don't want to back up what I said" and that would have been that. But instead he made retarded posts and comments like " you wouldn't know because you don't get their hard mag." and then went on and on just acting like a jackass.
Also he is wrong, A lot of advertising on these sites is geared to affiliates. Most real B2B is done with phone calls not Xbiz ads. For example, if a company wants to sell all of their cross sales to another company they don't place an ad on Xbiz, they get their Rolodex out and make phone calls. *If* all of the affiliates were to go away you would be left a pretty consolidated adult industry, where a rather small amount of companies were responsible for a rather large amount of the traffic and sales. They wouldn't need to advertise to do business with each other, they would already know each other and how to contact them directly. Mass advertising is effective when trying to get to a large audience, ie affiliates and webmasters, not so much adult companies. Even more so as things become consolidated more and more in the future.