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Old 05-17-2011, 11:01 PM  
Atticus
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies View Post
You seem to be under the impression we are all here to win some sort of message board debate club badge. No one owes you any answers. No matter how many threads you post it in, or times you ask for them.

That being said, affiliates are not the one's taking out the ads in XBIZ, or any other trade mag, nor spending the "ad dollars". GFY is mainly made up of affiliates crying about tube sites, and being forced out of business with bad conversions. Many of the companies advertising in XBIZ ad space are not active as posters, or visible on GFY.

Furthermore, for each 'BROgram' or single company there has to have been easily 1,000 to 10,000 affiliates if you look at the ratios. I would bet that literally 75% of the affiliates from 3 years ago are no longer full time in this business. Within 2 years, I would say that 95% of the old timers will be gone leaving only the power houses.

By the simple law of averages, when I say "most of adult will be a ghost town" that would hold true since most of the affiliates, which made up the largest number of both GFY and the online adult industry will be almost completely gone. At least the full timer affiliates.

There will still be plenty of strong companies left who've brought their traffic in-house over the past few years, developed their own tube sites to build up traffic, turned their membership and old credit card data into mailing lists, or growing fast in the mobile, etc.. These companies will still be buying ad space. Most of XBIZ ad space is geared toward B2B IMHO. Not worrying about some low ball affiliate.

I guess you needed myself, and others, to spell out these simple concepts. As you have admitted, you get the hard cover of the trade mag. and should have been able to easily open it and pay attention. While not all, the vast majority I see monthly is B2B and geared towards higher end companies. Software scripts, content, mobile applications, new technology, etc.. But I guess this eluded you.

Hopefully now that I have taken 5 minutes of my time to explain this, you can now sleep at night and get a good night's rest for tomorrow. I am sure there will be plenty of new posts where you can follow me around with will76 like a jaded school girl repeating, "I asked you a question, I asked you a question almighty Footsies".

Thank you so much for taking the time to educate me on proper spin technique.

In your original post that started all of this you said absolutely nothing about affiliates. You said Xbiz would be one of the last viable adult companies left within 12-24 months. Which begs the obvious question:

If XBiz depends on other companies to advertise then how in the hell will they be one of the last viable companies left if there are no companies left to advertise?

You then deflect, post stupid pics, act like a condescending jackass and finally do an about face and say affiliates will be gone but they'll be plenty of companies left to place ads. So basically what we all thought in the first place. You blindly rushed in to kiss some ass and made a comment you couldn't possible back up with any reasonable opinion because it was absolute horse shit and ridiculous in the first place.

I do read the hard copy and I know who's placing ads now. The question is who will be placing ads in 12-24 months? As I've stated above I personally think XBiz will be fine. But I also don't have such a bleak outlook as you do. I think they'll be plenty of companies left and also a place for the affiliate model. YOU are the one who said otherwise.
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