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Old 05-11-2011, 06:29 AM  
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Originally Posted by gideongallery View Post
really you might want to look any one of the cacheing rulings that has come down the pike

the key difference is the act in and of itself an infringement

if the copy isn't a working copy when you take your actions into account your not distributing shit.
This isn't a cache, so it makes no difference. And even if you give out 1 byte of data, it's still giving it away.





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really your now trying to argue that they guy recorded knight rider is the copyright owner

that who your borrowing the copy from.
hehe, funny you can't recognize "actual" fair use when it's shown to you.



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nope the fact that the fair use of timeshifting already authorized sharing (see borrowing a friends timeshifted copy above)
Time shifting does not authorize distribution of the copyrighted material... being that we're talking about torrents and not a shared copy which is fair use. But make 10,000 copies and try to give those out on ebay - find out how fast fair use dries up.


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except there is no minimum security standard that establish liability
that the point
if isohunt says in their disclaimer only download if you have a right to the content (fair use or authorized)

and you download without cede authorization, that a hack too

that as much of a hack as if i left the password blank on the guest account and put an unauthorized declaration on the welcome message
Yeah their is, it's not like the person that had his wifi hacked is going to jail for what the people did.

And that's not a hack, it's not like pw hacks at all, and it really has nothing to do with what you said.



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Originally Posted by gideongallery View Post
reread those case they only proved that a technology can "IN and of itself" infringe

isohunt doesn't in and of itself infringe, you need at least a third party torrent client for any infringement to occur

in fact without the third party torrent client infringement is impossible

is it possible that courts will rule that it the same thing

possibly

have they done it yet

Yes it does... and yes courts have already ruled. Maybe not on the actual software but they've got them another way.

First DRM content (theater releases) from the recording, transfer, upload/download, anyone in between is guilty of a crime.

And they WILL have to add active/progressive filtering to ensure copyrighted materials can not be found or they will be put out of business... just like alllll the other piracy cases coming down the pipe.
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