Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i think people forget , jail , laws and punishment are parts of making our society better. If the only goal is punishment we should not be surprised if our society gets shittier.

Our goal is to make us a more decent law abiding people. ( i hope ).

So what his punishment is , and/or what other people get for other crimes is really a moot point. What we should be asking ourselves is " does this punishment help us as a whole " or more to the point " what do we do to punish this person that will help us as a whole"

With most crimes there is a victim. There really is no victim here.. if anyone the kids are the victims , and the punishment should focus on them and how to make it better not worse..