Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl

So you claim the opposite..l.if you are being honest, and I am being honest about the form behavior how can this be???

So now as usual I set out on a quest to have 1 question answered directly,completely,and logically, and in my pursuit of an answer, I get even more questions then I had to begin with.. this is always seems to be the case...

Others talk to you as if you are God, and are beyond reproach... I take the position that you work for me, and not the other way around....and therefore I have a right to not have to settle for incomplete,vague, or elusive answers to my direct questions!

So back to the 200% join form submissions.... you also came on GFY and told the world that you ran a bunch of test submissions with a bad card, and ran my join form percentages way over 100%

There is no other word to describe this other than a BALD FACED LIE... I understand protecting the companies image, and doing damage control..that is also part of the job of public relations....but now you saying that you ran my percentages way past 100% with such ease has sort of backed me into a corner!

I checked my admin all throughout the day, and at NO TIME WERE MY JOIN FORM PERCENTAGES over 100% like you claimed!

So now I am wondering why you would make such a statement publically on GFY that was simply FALSE...

I have three separate screen shots that show even with your 10 test sign ups the join form percentage NEVER WENT OVER 100%.....PERIOD

I tried it myself because I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt, I have the screen shots...from yesterday , and I have 3 other screen shots showing join form percentages over 100%

I don't know what else to say here... I certainly want to believe you are sincere....but you came in and completely made a 100% false statement about racking my join form submission percentages up way over 100%

Hell thats all I wanted to know in the first place was what causes this to happen...your ccbill rep could have said...."well that happens when a customer submits too many times"

your rep did not say that he said it was and I quote..."thats definitely INAACURATE"

Now where have I heard that before???? So I asked you directly if a 200% join form submission is accurate...your answer was "YES" that is accurate.

You also indicated it was very rare but certainly possible...if it is so rare why do I have at least 3 instances within the past few months 2 within the past week!

If you examine your own post in this thread you said and I quote..."it is certainly possible to have a form submission without a form hit"

Its like which came first the chicken or the egg.... for their to be a submission does the join form have to first load???

For the join form to first load doesn't there have to be a "form hit"...

for there to be a form hit doesn't there have to be a click on the form?

So without a form hit, without a form load, how do we arrive at a form submission??

Look I am trying to get an answer that makes sense... I am rational, I am reasonable....you show me definitively that join form percentages over 100% are routine and normal than we have no issue

It sad that most of you would just "ACCEPT" without challenge, without question what these reps say, and just discount and besmirch what I say...even when I have good reason, for the questions I raise...

I am not the gfy black sheep....I have rad at length the posts of dozens of others over the years who have jumped ship in total frustration because they could not get a straight sufficient answer from you guys.

So this whole attempt to act like this is all my imagination, my own misunderstanding it works for a little while, but in the end I have truth on my side.

I never have fabricated any question,issue,complaint, I have always attempted to ask tough direct questions, and get accused of everything under the sun.

I wish that when I look at my stats they would just appear acceptable... I wish it was 3 years ago, when my stats were consistent,concise, and accurate.

With all that's been said, I still would like to know why if you ran my join form submission percentage way up past 100% like you told the world you did, why was I not able to verify this on my end?

Furthermore why was my INCOMPLETE JOIN FORM submitted , and according to you...your incomplete join form was not submitted??!?!?

Why would I get a denial that says you already have a membership when it was a bogus name???

Why would I get a denial that says try another card when the join form was not filled out completely??

DO I have to start screen shooting, and video taping every single report, transaction, telephone call...to illustrate the run around and confusion I am afforded when trying to get a straight answer???

So fucking what you get a handful of supposed webmasters to come in and say all is fine..sales are rocking...blah blah blah......that does not invalidate any one of my questions, or concerns.

7 out of my last 8 sign ups came from non ccbill processors.... and you sit there acting as if its all in my head that something is not right.