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1. Premiums Have Gone Up: Obama promised that families will pay less for their healthcare premiums under his plan. Quite the opposite has happened. Insurance companies are making double-digit rate increases to consumer premiums in anticipation of the cost of new mandates by ObamaCare.
Not because of Obamacare they haven't... they were planned increases laid out over 5 years ago.

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2. You Can’t Keep Your Current Plan And Doctor: Businesses will be forced to change their employees’ healthcare plans in order to meet the new regulations. An estimated 69% of businesses will be forced to change their plans, forcing countless millions of Americans to change plans and doctors.
You can keep your Doctor if you keep your current insurance. Like anytime you switch insurance, you may have to change Doctors.

That means 69% of the businesses with 50+ employees, don't offer coverage at all or only part coverage. So yeah, when they "upgrade" to full coverage or from no insurance to insurance, they'll have to change doctors.

Now for those really small companies, they get a tax break.. I wonder what % of companies have less than 25 employees or are self employed people.... shit tons!

AND States actually regulate this based on the law, you should read it one day.


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3. National Budget Deficit Is Worse: Sixty-one percent (61%) of all voters nationwide say the healthcare law will increase the federal deficit.
61% of the people are confused... healthcare would have 'already' added to the federal deficit, Obamacare added "less" than doing nothing.


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4. More Children Are Uninsured: Anthem Blue Cross, Aetna Inc. and other insurance agencies are dropping child-only policies, citing huge, unexpected costs from ObamaCare. An estimated half a million children in the United States will be affected by the policies.
That's because it's now mandatory to cover them, thus they don't need that 'category' and make it look like a loss. This is nothing but pure corporate spin.


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5. Small Business Taxes Increased: Small businesses—the engine of the U.S. economy—are suffering from increased tax filing regulations and anticipated healthcare mandates. Over 40 million small businesses will be required to file new tax reports for health care. The tax credit for the regulations only covers one-tenth of these business’s losses.
I had to file another tax paper last year, it about broke the nation. Another box on my w2 isn't going to kill me.

The tax credit is for small business, the smaller the business / pay structure, the better cut they get and the bigger they are, the less they get. So in the scale of things, it 'appears' it only covers 1/10th, but the reality is it covers all small business and scales up.


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6. Small Businesses Health Care Burden Increased: Almost half of all smaller employers are anticipating “significant increases in healthcare costs in the short term.” These business owners are likely to cut back on hiring and expansion because they fear a new healthcare burden.
What is a smaller employer? People under 50 staff wont see anything hit them, those with under 25 will get a credit... really it's the 100+ that the Burden starts to hit, and more so the bigger you are.

So who are these companies with 100+ staff, with 'zero' insurance that are going to have this burden hit them. A company with 100 staff pays out about 5 million a year in wages. If they 'refuse to cover ever staff member', the State/Fed will cover them, and the company will be fined $75k a year or $750 per.

Roughly 1.5 more staff a year to cover the fine... yeah probably going to brake those 100+ staffer companies right in half.


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7. More Government Spending: The Congressional Budget Office has already adjusted the cost for ObamaCare since it passed, adding another $115 billion to the taxpayer’s tab. The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services has adjusted upwards its cost prediction since the bill took effect from 6.1% per year to 6.3%. By 2019, U.S. spending on health care will reach $4.6 trillion.
And without the bill, it would have been higher.

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8. Senior Citizens Suffer from Medicare Cuts: The Medicare Advantage program which covers nearly a quarter of seniors will cut plans from $3-$5,000 per beneficiary. Doctors are refusing to take seniors because Medicare only covers part of their bills.
How are doctors refusing to take something that hasn't started and actually is covered a different way? Very odd to say the least.


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9. Minorities Get Worse Health Care: ObamaCare forces 16 million Americans into Medicaid, a poorly performing welfare program. The President considers moving Hispanic and blacks into Medicaid an improvement in their healthcare. No one else does.
Is that because the poor are minorities or something? Because the video of the free care tents had a shit ton of white people in them, unclean, out in the open, getting medical help - I have a feeling people with no coverage are okay with shitty coverage.


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10. Democrats Losing Elections: Current polls show that 61% of likely voters want the bill repealed and the Tea Party movement has demonstrated America’s anger toward ObamaCare. The primaries this summer have shown that Americans are voting for members of congress who will repeal Obamacare.
That's because the media filled the people with shit tons of lies that are now coming out and back firing on them.


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Here's a few things, but have you seen how many compnaies and unions are opting out of the new law?
This has been explained to you several times... The Corp, Insurance Company and Major Corps/Unions have worked for decades to get the benefit layout they have, costing Companies/Unions/The Fed billions in legal fights already. To them it's not insurance, it's everything... from people they can't cover (ie why they got the waiver) part time people, 401k benefits, retirement, sick days, etc, etc, etc.... it's not "insurance" it's an entire system that every penny helps balance the other parts out.

I get this, like I get the back of my hand, I truly don't understand why this eludes you so much.
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