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Originally Posted by Robbie
Holy shit...that IS a terrible scene of theirs you posted Paul. Sounds like they are using a program to grab screencaps instead of doing it by hand as well.
And that set? I could use it. But I'd concoct a cheesy insane storyline where CM takes a hit of acid and is tripping (about 2, maybe 3 minutes of comedy dialogue), then have a ripped up stud fuck the hell out of her in the ass (about 15 minutes of action) on that set (which she is hallucinating), and then have her "wake up" from the acid trip covered in cum lying on the ground outside with the guy now dressed like a nasty old bum with a big grin on his face.
But that shit you just showed us? Paul I think you may have indeed found their very worst scene. lol
I'm sure they have tons of good scenes...but hopefully that one was a shooter auditioning and they shitcanned him afterwards and stuck the scene in the paysite so as not to "waste" it.
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Yes all the screencaps in the site are like this. And there are other scenes like this as well. The basic problem isn't the shooter, it's the organisation behind him. If he was auditioning who chose him? He's poor.
Worse than that is the guy that dreamed up the scene. WTF was he smoking? Loads of their scenes are the same. Dreamed up with no real idea of what porn is, maybe I found Fabian's real job at Manwin. The idea of starting off a fuck scene with 11 minutes of the girl doing little but wiggling her ass at the camera while some Irish Jig music is edited in over the top shows stupidity.
Then allowing two plastic models fuck like these two shows bad shooting, but who booked them?
The whole thing is crap and a waste of time, disc space and members time.
The "Good" scenes on their site are just average scenes. They do have one shooter who clearly knows what he's doing. but it's shot in a way that's been done to death and on so many sites it's now boring.
Bangbus came out 10-12 years ago and showed the way. They took an idea that had been done sporadically on video and made it into a whole theme for a site. They innovated and surfers responded. Perfect Gonzo took a great shooter and made some great porn, sadly when he went to the DVD industry, Evil Angel I was told, they never replaced him. And that's just 2 examples of how it should be done.
Give surfers bloody good reasons to spend money. And those reasons can't be "marketing" because once bitten twice shy. Surfers don't believe all the hype, they know bullshit when they see it by now. They look at the content and the content only before making a decision to spend.
Still problems with piracy and free, but still a few willing to pay and that's how to make them. Throwing more free content at them clearly no longer works.
plsureking this kind of content can't be overcome with marketing. Porn is a repeat buy product by repeat buy customers. This pisses them off and makes Tubes a better deal for them. That's my proof.
If you think words and design fool anyone after 15 years of online porn you're kidding yourself.
Now if marketing porn is something different please inform us. Show us you have a clue what marketing is about. Or show I'm right. If you show me something that proves your right. From your site I don't see anything great.
Those tricks worked 10 years ago. Today they don't the buyers are wiser. Shouting out the same message over and over just herds traffic. That's not real marketing. It's as if marketing is giving out fliers on the high street. The lowest form.
As for only knowing how to shoot. How silly.
Guys that only know how to shoot are working for Fabian or for a shooter who can market. They don't know how to market or sell their product to the best markets. I've been in business for nearly 4 decades, even before I came to porn I was in business.
Without the ability to market and sell my content I would of been gone 30 years ago. Without the ability to manage a business I would of been gone long ago, without the ability to manage staff I would of been gone long ago. I employed 3 shooters in a 3500 SQ ft studio and an office of 5 people at our height in 2005.
To say I only know how to shoot is stupid. Truth is I know very little about photography. I'm a pornographer who can market himself, sell his and his staff's content in the highest paying markets, run a business and manage staff.
You think throwing mud at a wall is marketing.
Maybe to newbies, but not guys who have a clue. Here's one of the first things I learned when being taught about real marketing.
In WW2, the best ground to air defense against planes was the Anti Aircraft gun. It sprayed the sky with exploding shells in the hope of hitting something. 500 shells to get one hit. Today they use a ground to air guided missiles. 1 missile 1 hit. Real marketing is identifying the 1 missile that will make your prospective client buy.
Not spraying out garbage that everyone else sprays out.
