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Originally Posted by plsureking
have u shot in the vineyards or the wineries?
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Of course.
Just one of the scenes we did before we shut up shooting.
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they aren't selling content quality. only MET/Hegre/Femjoy are in the non-existent quality race. everybody else in porn sells on fantasy. porn stories are meant to trigger a fantasy to hook the surfer. the actual shoot is secondary, especially since no one sits thru a whole porn scene. well unless u cant get hard. if u are a porn surfer, u want fantasy - then action.
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Quality porn is all about the fantasy. Quality photography is something else.
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the reason porn is failing is that paysites fail to match the right fantasy to the surfer. each paysite is limited in scope and usually poor in marketing.
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You don't have a clue about marketing porn. So please STFU.
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rather than wade thru hundreds of paysites, a surfer can just go to a big tube and find the right fantasy in their head, then get satisfaction. whether its free or not is irrelevant. people pay for what they want - even guys 18-30.
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Agreed 100% Tubes would still sell if they were $30 a month.
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unless you've had to use GNATS or customize it, i would retract that statement. it is slow, confusing, and it uses smarty. you have to actually learn how to read a report (like payments) instead of it being intuitive. its a hunk of 90s era garbage. should have been rewritten more efficiently by now.
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I'm sure it's not something a good programmer can't do.
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a great cms with great marketing can sell anything. talk to Fabian.
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Not when you're selling a repeat buy product to a repeat buy customer.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on you.
One of the reasons sales are falling is as you point out Tubes are far better than most membership sites. They're full of low quality porn and the major money is spent on marketing to get new customers to replace old customers.
So customers start to see that paid porn isn't delivering what they want. The next time they see a site that might interest them they remember the bad experiences and are more wary. As this repeats itself they become more and more wary. In the end Tubes are the better choice.
Of course if you believe what a marketing man tells you over your own experiences you're one of the few.
This is the problem, we have all built up suspicions after being sold something by fast talking salesmen or glossy ads. We learn. Yet we think the surfer doesn't he will keep giving us his money, so long as we do the marketing right.
Illogical.
And what ever we do manage to sell him, once he gets into the site the retention relies 100% on the content. Too many scenes like the ones on Brazzers and he's off, never to return.