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Old 03-24-2011, 08:02 AM  
Paul Markham
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justinsain, Who knows brother? Maybe Paul is just sitting back laughing at Fabian. And Fabian is so damn dumb that HE is laughing at Paul and basking in the glow of hundreds of trolls on GFY

I'm not sure what Paul would do with a "challenge" from somebody else. He didn't take this "challenge" seriously until Fabian agreed to pay his price. Which right there showed that Fabian is a horrible businessman and that Paul is much smarter than he is by drawing him in and having him agree to pay $3,000 for a shoot of a girl masturbating.

To me this whole thread isn't about whether or not Paul Markham is a superior photographer...it's pretty obvious from his credentials that he definitely is. And I would say that if magazines & the DVD industry were still big...that very few guys (including the ones Brazzers have) would currently be up to the level to shoot for them.

To me...the whole thread is about Fabian and his complete power trip and ego run amock. He's like the Barney Fife of porn. He had nothing to do with Mansef becoming so big. He had nothing to do with the making of the money that was used to purchase the company. And yet, he is completely wrapped in himself thinking he is now a master of porn.

That is what is driving this thread. And you can watch all the people attacking Markham and babbling on and on about whether or not this "challenge" can be met...and it's like watching a Pro wrestling match. But instead of two guys pretending to be fighters and one guy is the good guy and one guy is the bad guy...we have one guy pretending to have any knowledge of porn at all (Fabian), and one guy pretending that he gives a shit (Paul)

That's what is really happening here. And I love watching it.
In the end, I'll still respect Paul for his work over the years. That is real. Fabian? Uh...I respect him for programming the first version of NATS. He was a good employee at TMM. Then he opened a small paysite and affiliate program and it failed big time. Then he talked his way into his current job working for the real owners of Manwin. And that really is kinda impressive.
Had to be some MASSIVE bullshit con job to be able to convince them to let a guy who had never ran a successful porn company or even been on set at a porn shoot....run this for them.
I'm amazed at this thread. A person who should be vilified on any industry board is being supported by trolls.

Fabian is clueless about porn, his sites are full of crap to medium quality content. I will post a review later of one of the scenes on Brazzers, it's the worse porn scene I've ever seen. The guy who thought up the idea and gave the script to the shooter should be fired.

If that's the quality of the staff running the content side you just have to wonder what the fuck are they doing.

As for Fabian. Like you I think he's a puppet. He's obviously clueless about porn and even though I'm sure NATS is a good system it's probably nothing a good programmer couldn't do. I doubt very much that he had the money to buy Mansef. And some of those proposing he went to the bank or found backers are showing their knowledge of real business. They might be able to do that with Playboy, Penthouse or Hustler. But not Mansef with a money laundering charge hanging over it.

In all honesty I hoped this would happen. I hope now a few sponsors or custom shooters take this challenge up so they can show their skills. But will they?

All should love the opportunity to show what their sites are full of or skills are. In reality they won't.
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