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Originally Posted by justinsain
While today there may be a finite number of customers available there will always be new ones coming to the internet or coming of age where they are able purchase porn. It's the same as adult models. Today there are only a finite number of models doing porn but there will always be more coming of age.
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Good luck selling porn to 18 year olds. LOL
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You seem to point the finger at everyone else as screwing up. Do you consider yourself as one that made the same mistakes?
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Not with saturating my main markets. If we found a top girl we shot her 10 times max. So the 10 sets were great sellers. Shooting the same girl 20 times wouldn't necessarily make twice the money. Like doubling the number of DVDs on a shelf or porn sites or affiliates. Unless it's in a market/niche that's starved of dvds, sites or affiliates.
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With YOUR paysite did you get to the point where you were GIVING your members daily updates?
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We started out with that and then went to rotating content. The magazines were our bread and butter and when the demand of them tailed off we slowed down shooting. We do have 2,500 + sets and 1,000 + videos
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Did you do the FREE three day trial membership deal GIVING your paysite members a FREE look at your content?
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No we do better than that. We allow them to see what they're buying before they enter any info in.
http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com/members_tour/index.php Surfers are educated today and know a lot of 3 days trials or just a con, free or paid. A LOT of our income comes from people signing up for just 3 days over and over and over again.
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Did you GIVE at least a 50-50 split to your affiliates and GIVE too much content to them to promote with?
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Yes, guilty as charged. Otherwise I wouldn't have any affiliates as it was the route we all HAd to go down. Because that's the way everyone else did it.
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How can you tell everyone that they have the same old content that's been done over and over creating a saturated market and diss photographers for shooting exclusive when YOUR business is selling the SAME photo and video packages OVER and OVER?
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Because we made a lot more money than they did. Either they're bad at marketing, business or shooting. Or like working for a smaller living.
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If money is the measurement you use to determine success or failure, how can you sit here and tell people like Robbie and Fabian they are doing it wrong when they have made and CONTINUE to make far more money than you?
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Because as a shooter I made more than any other shooter only here. By selling my content over and over and over again. I have no real knowledge of what Robbie makes. But know when I see something that raise my eyebrows. A sign up every second as an affilite would make him the richest man on porn by now. He would of been earning $54,000 a hour @ 60 x 60 x $15 = $54,000
$1,296,000 a day.
$473,040,000 a year.
Even at 1 a minute he would of been on close to $8 million a year. I would say probably a lot lower than he says. Unless he's sitting on a beach in the Bahamas posting for the fun of it. No he's still having to work hard with a site of CM fucking people.
As for Fabian, I have no idea of what he earns. And that's one of the problems with Manwin. It's shrouded in mystery.
All I do know is Lensman sold his entire business, during the good years, for $9 million. Not a great deal of money in the porn business and nothing like a great deal of money in the real business world. And everyone here envied him. Like he had won the lottery.
It was a nice figure to be sure, but not a really big sum like many here think.
Today, which is what pays the bills. No one would buy it for 1/10 of that.
I always question whether I would of been better off opening a paysite earlier and throwing more resources at it. I always come up with the same questions.
What effect would it have on our current sources of income?
Did I know enough about online paysites and affiliates?
Would we fail like I saw so many fail?
Do you remember all the sites that didn't make it or scraped a living? I do, I met some of them at shows. It's not as easy as plsureking makes out. I wasn't some green newbie thinking porn was an easy game.
It was a gamble and we took it in about 2005 and it's done all right, but nothing like the content stores or sales to magazines.