Originally Posted by Robbie

I'll leave that to you to figure out RD. You seem to have so much interest in this thread. It doesn't take but a few seconds to figure out why Manwin's group of tube sites full of everybody else's stolen content would piss people off.

And then a quick check around and you find out what Fabian has done in his life...or I should say lack of things he's done in the actual porn business (and his complete lack of any creative skills and his zero experience in pretty much every aspect of this business...except for programming the first version of NATS software)...and then I think you'll understand why I personally don't care about the guy one way or another.

I think I've already made that pretty clear. I save my respect for my peers. Fabian was a failed webmaster after he left TMM with a failed tiny affiliate program. Then suddenly, out of the blue...he's one of a handful of "managing partners" of the newly dubbed "Manwin".

I have no problem with a guy doing well for himself by being slick enough to talk some people with money into opening a door for him. Sure he is the guy who has the job of taking heat. And believe me...he's taking it.

But for this guy to get off on a power trip and suddenly start lecturing to his betters? Ridiculous. All the money in the world won't buy him a creative bone in his body, and it won't buy him a clue either.

He is beneath me. And WAY beneath guys like Paul, Jim Gunn, and Just Dave. And the business tactics that the tube side of his company engage in are part of the problem that has caused guys like Paul, Jim, and Dave to actually approach this guy for work. I don't fault them for that. But me? I don't need his shit. And as I said...I wouldn't give him the time of day.