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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango
..and I'm sorry Fabian, but I'm going to have to disagree with you about this:
"Regarding the remark about shooters.. I said we DO NOT use big DVD shooters, it is completely wrong for online. But you seem to ignore that and go on with how I should name names of the big boys we work with..."
...What does the initial release platform really have to do with anything nowadays anyway? Truly talented shooters should be able to emulate any style, whether it's "internet" or "DVD"...
Am I wrong?
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For years the line about what is right or wrong for online was ruled by what produced could produce or publishers could pay for. The idea that people of only one taste log on it silly.
However if right what is the difference between online and offline porn? Amateur has been shot ever since video tape was used inside cameras. I was shooting amateur 30 years ago. Gonzo dates back to Ugly George in NY. Reality also is an old style. Even Ex GF was being shot, except we called it Readers Wives. A lot was shot on Polaroid or if you looked in the back of a Photography magazine there were processors who would process more racy pictures. Amateur, Ex GF, Wives was a big niche ask Far-L.
As you sat good shooters can and do switch styles. Steve Perry who shot for Private is also Ben Dover. Or under his real name Lindsay Honey.
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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango
...I think the reason you don't name big names is that names (other than the talents' names) have historically never mattered at all to Brazzers (Who is Stephane again? I googled him but couldn't find any porn relation)...
Anyway, Roy Karch?
Great big directing name at one point in time...
The industry does not even have a hint of a speccle (which is not a word) of a microbe of dust of a resemblance to what the industry was then.
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The porn industry WAS far bigger back then. The problem as I pointed out is people think it stopped at the doors of the producers of the product. They refuse to calculate in the retail value. The Adult Internet is the retail value only. Sadly there's no accurate figures for either so it's all guesswork. From my side and the other side.
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Paul, however, unlike Roy, has been given a BIG chance here... The question on everyone's mind is HOW WILL THE SCENE TURN OUT???
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I have no idea. To my knowledge all I said was I would come back and shoot for $3,000 and I think I can shoot a better set than what they have. To be very honest haven't seen any of their sets, so I'm guessing.
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Also, Paul, I think it is time that you FINALLY acknowledge and accept my offer to fly myself out and be your free 2nd BTS cam... please acknowledge this offer immediately.
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No. I cannot have some unknown person in on the shoot or even behind the scenes. Shooting solo girl is all about the relationship between the shooter and the model. Having you or even Eva in there changes the dynamics. In all honesty do I care if people believe if I shot it? Not in the slightest. It's what I know that counts. I'm doing this for my benefit and the $3,000. Not to prove to trolls on GFY anything.
As for the jibe about having a go at todays shooters. Well that's BS. I'm sympathetic about them having to pay for the money they do. JustDave posted that Brazzers are probably the best online payers today. Which could back up my point that offline often pays better.
Sponsors control the product everyone is trying to sell. Not shooters. Sponsors control budgets not shooters. And $700 is from what I've heard good money for an online company. I know a lot offered $300 and Mutt has said the price is $500. Will good offline porn shooters work for that?
I think as Nathan points out a $250k budget DVD HAD to be sold offline first and then online. Is he saying that to return that investment offline is the best way?
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Originally Posted by BVF
Seriously...How hard is a sologirl masturbation script to write?...I could write one off the top of my head....And since folks are throwing money, I ain't writing one unless someone offers me money to write one....
But unlike Paul, I'll have a script posted in 24 hours.
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It tok ages for Nathan to produce a password. Then when it was wrong to get a new one. He obviously doesn't have the ability to sit down and write one in 15 minutes which is how long it should take. Also how many ways are there to shoot a solo girl scene? His site must have some very varied scenes if a new one is written for each scene.
And the contract? So not a normal one with just the names changed then. So what is this one about?
I suspect Nathan is having to constantly run back and forth with this to other people. Not being able to issue a password is bad. IMO. Even if he has people who normally do that, not being able to do this himself is bad.
Especially if it's a small script with noting too involved. From what I'm seeing on the site it's a 15 minute job.